TOTALLY Transparent Material?

Discussion in 'Materials' started by ricarus, Sep 28, 2009.

  1. ricarus
    ricarus Member
    Hi Guys.

    I know that you do 3D printing in a kind of smokey translucent "transparent", but I was wondering if you have any plans to do print with a totally transparent material (like transparent acrylic)?

    I can imagine that this may be hard to do, but I can think of a great application!

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  2. gibell
    gibell Well-Known Member
    You'd think printing in glass would be totally transparent. But the photo of that piece created by the new Vitraglyphic process doesn't look transparent at all?

    Would be cool to print out a camera lens!
     
  3. 14176_deleted
    14176_deleted Member
    I even believe that when you cast glass into a mold, you won't get a transparent object, that's why glass isn't casted at all. If you cast glass, it won't have a flat, smooth surface and therefore it wouldn't be transparent. I think completely transparent printing will be difficult, but when resolutions go up, it might be possible with transparent plastics...
     
  4. 20622_deleted
    20622_deleted Member
    i think the problem comes mainly from the fact that its an additive process, printing; i.e. all the ways that exist are putting bits together, whether it be SLS - melting power, or FDM - depositing melted plastic string; no matter what process or what material you use, its as transparent as a bag of transparent marbles.
    but i believe casting is possible, however; just it wouldnt be worth it; if you needed something with optical properties, likely you would need better than 3d printing can do in terms of surface... although this new white glaze may have possibilities.

     
  5. dadrummond
    dadrummond Member
    I wonder if something like the bronze infusion process for the steel material could work to turn the "bag of marbles" clear. What is needed is a follow-up infusion with a transparent material having the same refractive index as the deposited material.
     
  6. 25182_deleted
    25182_deleted Member
    Just knocked this together.

    Clear.jpg
     
  7. Youknowwho4eva
    Youknowwho4eva Well-Known Member
    The problem is, look at a piece of molded plastic with air in it. The layers that are made with 3D printing, unless made in a vacuum, will have air in it. When made in a vacuum it will probably still of voids. Little tiny voids. That no matter the material, will appear foggy.
     
  8. chris89
    chris89 Member
  9. ricarus
    ricarus Member
    Hey guys.

    A lot of good points there - thanks.

    So the possible issues are:

    1/ Possible impurities (including air) in the volume of finished material.

    2/ Rough surface due to printing process.

    I remember seeing the cool (and freaky!) head-bowl a while back too. It makes me think:

    a/ IF you can adequately access the surfaces and polish them, you get pretty good transparency.

    b/ The colouring still seems impure.

    Maybe the impure colouring is down to some sort of bonding material use to adhere the plastic together in the printing process?

    Rick.
     
  10. ricarus
    ricarus Member
    @ crsdfr:

    The machined acrylic looks great! :)

    Where would I go to get something like that created?

    I presume it would be very expensive?

    Thanks in advance for your help!

    Rick.
     
  11. ricarus
    ricarus Member
    Hi crsdfr:

    The machined acrylic looks great! :)

    Where would I go to get something like that created?

    I presume it would be very expensive?

    Thanks in advance for your help!

    Rick.
     
  12. Maybe you could do what I have seen some prop makers do: 3D print an object and then use it as a mould for resin/acrylic casting?
     
  13. DennisHarroun
    DennisHarroun Member
    Clear is near! Glass...Ideal but getting a variation of colors in clear gets me very excited.