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Re: Designing dice for dice snobs [message #18262 is a reply to message #18250 ] Thu, 23 September 2010 19:17 UTC Go to previous messageGo to next message
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mctrivia wrote on Thu, 23 September 2010 18:41

steel minimum diameter is 3mm with 1mm clearance


only if it's over 5cm in height.. that's not the case here nor in any steel pendant/ring you can find on shops

Shapeways has to give a serious thought on the canceling process - i've asked support to consider the idea that a shop owner will receive a window of 24-72 hours to fix his/her model and re-upload (much like a co-creator process) before canceling the order and issuing a coupon to a confused customer.

If shop owner fixed the issue and re-uploaded the model but there is a cost difference it will be deducted from his markup.

The current cancellation process fails to bring that customer to re-order that design..
A shop owner looses that customer and most likely not only for the failed order.. Confused






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Re: Designing dice for dice snobs [message #18264 is a reply to message #18262 ] Thu, 23 September 2010 19:24 UTC Go to previous messageGo to next message
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dizingof wrote on Thu, 23 September 2010 19:17

The current cancellation process fails to bring that customer to re-order that design..
A shop owner looses that customer and most likely not only for the failed order.. Confused


Not necessarily. I've been trying my hand at designing something and just can't seem to wrap my head around the process. I can totally understand that something might not work right the first time.

The reupload time sounds like a good idea, but if not that then I'd prefer if instead of issuing a coupon, they would just refund to Paypal. Especially since you can only use one coupon per order. I had a situation a while back where I had to choose between using a small refund or a 10% off coupon. Not cool.

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Re: Designing dice for dice snobs [message #18266 is a reply to message #18261 ] Thu, 23 September 2010 19:34 UTC Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Drawn-Steel Hero wrote on Thu, 23 September 2010 19:12

mctrivia wrote on Thu, 23 September 2010 18:41

steel minimum diameter is 3mm with 1mm clearance

Depends on the size. Rule of thumb seems to be that 3mm is the minimum accepted wall thickness on any model over 5x5x5cm, but on smaller models they will accept down to 1mm.

I had a couple of my I Ching trigram pendants printed in steel. They have two 1.5mm diameter rods serving as the threading loop, and suspending the actual trigram, and they printed just fine.

Andy


likewise, the Leo Pendant i made for my daughter was total 3mm deep, but some of the segment walls are under 0.5mm

I've seen it written here somewhere that as long as the item is less than 50mm diameter the 1mm wall thickness is fine... what i'm wondering is if those rules take into account 3 dimensions, because a minimum of 27 cubic mm (3x3x3mm) on any part of a model is going to be chunky and very expensive... and is the 50mm diameter in 2 or 3 dimensions?

I understand why my chained die failed (not structurally sound for the top face when printed) and it is probably the same reason for the extruded... i have yet to have a 'falied' notice for my own order, but have had 'Your model has been cancelled' email

& thanks to Youknowwho4eva for the lnk to the paper dice... that's helped me loads Smile

& thumbs up to Gumball... i suppose i'm like a kid here, i read the rules and am trying to find the real limits
Re: Designing dice for dice snobs [message #18295 is a reply to message #16979 ] Fri, 24 September 2010 15:36 UTC Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I regret to inform that the beautiful Swirl Dice can not be 3D printed in metal

The reason:

"DISTORTS REALLY BAD"

"After being in the furnace for along time, some parts cool down faster than other and that can create distortion and in case with your model, it breaks." Confused

So i had to remove the metal material from the model's page.

Those who ordered it - the orders were canceled you are all welcome to re-order it in a different material.


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Edit: model was thickened and is now printable in metal.

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Re: Designing dice for dice snobs [message #18470 is a reply to message #16979 ] Tue, 28 September 2010 02:25 UTC Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Hey Shapers,

My 52nd dice - Aztec D6 Dice


Inspired by the unique architectural skills of the ancient Aztec.

index.php?t=getfile&id=5267&private=0



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Re: Designing dice for dice snobs [message #18477 is a reply to message #16979 ] Tue, 28 September 2010 07:27 UTC Go to previous messageGo to next message
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And... here is another Ancient dice , this one from Egypt.

Ancient Egyptian D6 Dice

index.php?t=getfile&id=5268&private=0

http://i53.tinypic.com/2usaihy.jpg

http://i52.tinypic.com/dzfjwx.jpg



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Re: Designing dice for dice snobs [message #18565 is a reply to message #16979 ] Wed, 29 September 2010 22:35 UTC Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I have to say dice creativity just bursting out of me , hope it continues

Here are 3 new dies:

Pair of SandStone D6 dice

Using the unique properties of the Sandstone material look&feel:

index.php?t=getfile&id=5281&private=0


Caged D6 Ball

http://i53.tinypic.com/rvcys4.jpg



Floating D6 Dice

http://i56.tinypic.com/nnn11f.jpg
http://i53.tinypic.com/ohqse9.jpg




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Re: Designing dice for dice snobs [message #18593 is a reply to message #18565 ] Fri, 01 October 2010 06:42 UTC Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Floating D6 Dice - Very Nice!!
Re: Designing dice for dice snobs [message #18594 is a reply to message #18593 ] Fri, 01 October 2010 07:51 UTC Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Dizingof, a question: what prevents the figures from exiting from the frame of the die?

[EDIT] Understood. The lateral figures prevent the whole structure from falling...


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Re: Designing dice for dice snobs [message #18595 is a reply to message #18593 ] Fri, 01 October 2010 08:16 UTC Go to previous messageGo to next message
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gumball wrote on Fri, 01 October 2010 06:42

Floating D6 Dice - Very Nice!!


Thanks gumball.

Here are some new ones:

Wizard's D4 Dice
http://i1080.photobucket.com/albums/j322/dizingof/WiziardsD4dice445.jpg

http://i1080.photobucket.com/albums/j322/dizingof/WiziardsD4dice447.jpg




Wizard's D8 Dice
http://i1080.photobucket.com/albums/j322/dizingof/WizardsD8Dice452.jpg



Wizard's D10 Dice

http://i1080.photobucket.com/albums/j322/dizingof/WizardsD10Dice455.jpg




Quatro D4 Dice

http://i1080.photobucket.com/albums/j322/dizingof/QuatroD4dice460.jpg




Trio D3 Dice
http://i1080.photobucket.com/albums/j322/dizingof/TrioD3Dice466.jpg

http://i1080.photobucket.com/albums/j322/dizingof/TrioD3Dice468.jpg



Wizard's D12 Dice
http://i1080.photobucket.com/albums/j322/dizingof/WizardsD12Dice473.jpg




Star D8 Dice

http://i1080.photobucket.com/albums/j322/dizingof/StarD8Dice477.jpg



Art Deco D4 Dice

http://i1080.photobucket.com/albums/j322/dizingof/ArtDecoD4Dice481.jpg






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Re: Designing dice for dice snobs [message #18657 is a reply to message #16979 ] Sun, 03 October 2010 08:48 UTC Go to previous messageGo to next message
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they keep coming !


Half moon D8 Dice

http://i1080.photobucket.com/albums/j322/dizingof/HalfmoonD8Dice490.jpg

http://i1080.photobucket.com/albums/j322/dizingof/HalfmoonD8Dice492.jpg



Half moon D20 Dice

http://i1080.photobucket.com/albums/j322/dizingof/HalfmoonD20Dice495.jpg

http://i1080.photobucket.com/albums/j322/dizingof/HalfmoonD20Dice497.jpg



Half moon D10 dice

http://i1080.photobucket.com/albums/j322/dizingof/HalfmoonD10dice501.jpg



TeeVee Dice

http://i1080.photobucket.com/albums/j322/dizingof/TeeVeeDice516.jpg

http://i1080.photobucket.com/albums/j322/dizingof/TeeVeeDice518.jpg


Shooting Star D6

http://i1080.photobucket.com/albums/j322/dizingof/ShootingstarD6520.jpg

http://i1080.photobucket.com/albums/j322/dizingof/ShootingstarD6521.jpg



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Re: Designing dice for dice snobs [message #18709 is a reply to message #18657 ] Tue, 05 October 2010 08:20 UTC Go to previous messageGo to next message
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i like the tv die. I just added 4 new dies myself.

3/4" Puzzle Die. Stores a micro SD Card Inside - Not for sale yet I am getting printed and want to make sure it works first. It is a pretty tiny space to squeze the mechanisms into.

The other 3 are available now and all perfectly weighted.
Floating Face Die
Floating Face Spiked Die
Floating FaceClawed Die

index.php?t=getfile&id=5328&private=0


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Re: Designing dice for dice snobs [message #18779 is a reply to message #16979 ] Thu, 07 October 2010 05:30 UTC Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Hey all,

72 Dice designs and growing..

I now sliced my markup by 50% ! Enjoy !


And.. here is my latest dice, inspired by the TV series Spartacus:

Genuine roman dice

index.php?t=getfile&id=5361&private=0






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Re: Designing dice for dice snobs [message #19176 is a reply to message #16979 ] Fri, 15 October 2010 18:13 UTC Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Hey all

I was asked by a youtube viewer if i could create a template for him to create his own D6 dice by uploading 6 pictures of his own graphics for each side of the dice...
I thought now that is a cool idea... so i made this co-creator:

Customize your very own D6 dice design with anything you have in mind and for any game you invent.

http://www.shapeways.com/model/165727/customized_dice.html?g id=sg28396


ex:
index.php?t=getfile&id=5490&private=0



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Re: Designing dice for dice snobs [message #19209 is a reply to message #16979 ] Sat, 16 October 2010 07:20 UTC Go to previous messageGo to next message
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This one already made a sale before i announced it here... Cool

Synergy D12 Dice

index.php?t=getfile&id=5503&private=0







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Re: Designing dice for dice snobs [message #19214 is a reply to message #19176 ] Sat, 16 October 2010 09:56 UTC Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I already did months ago a customizable Sandstone D6 (well two actually) and I just sold none of them Sad
Seems that as far as dice are concerned, metal rules...

[Updated on: Sat, 16 October 2010 09:57 UTC]

Re: Designing dice for dice snobs [message #19218 is a reply to message #19214 ] Sat, 16 October 2010 10:54 UTC Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Magic wrote on Sat, 16 October 2010 09:56

I already did months ago a customizable Sandstone D6 (well two actually) and I just sold none of them Sad
Seems that as far as dice are concerned, metal rules...




I agree, did you notice someone bookmarked your design? -
makes you wonder what the ratio of bookmark to actual sale is..? Confused

My tip is this: try shuffling the main picture of your bookmarked designs - this way it could get the attention of the customers who bookmarked it next time they log in.


Here is a new beauty i just finished .. Diamond D6 Dice

index.php?t=getfile&id=5504&private=0

http://i1080.photobucket.com/albums/j322/dizingof/DiamnodD6Dice587.jpg

http://i1080.photobucket.com/albums/j322/dizingof/DiamnodD6Dice589.jpg






If anyone has the budget to cast it in Silver message me i'll drop my markup to $0 ! Cool




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Re: Designing dice for dice snobs [message #19229 is a reply to message #19209 ] Sat, 16 October 2010 16:20 UTC Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Your Synergy D12 die is cool... do the opposites add up to 13?
Re: Designing dice for dice snobs [message #19235 is a reply to message #16979 ] Sat, 16 October 2010 19:35 UTC Go to previous messageGo to next message
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2 new dices

Circles D8 Dice

http://i1080.photobucket.com/albums/j322/dizingof/CirclesD8Dice593.jpg

http://i1080.photobucket.com/albums/j322/dizingof/CirclesD8Dice594.jpg




Infinity D8 dice

http://i1080.photobucket.com/albums/j322/dizingof/InfinityD8dice597.jpg

http://i1080.photobucket.com/albums/j322/dizingof/InfinityD8dice600.jpg





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Re: Designing dice for dice snobs [message #19251 is a reply to message #16979 ] Sun, 17 October 2010 07:13 UTC Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Well I have been having problems with any models with movable parts not working. So while I wait for my most recent attempt at a model with moving parts here is my crazy new die.

Prism Dieindex.php?t=getfile&id=5520&private=0

8863 faces is a little crazy but it looks pretty cool.

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Re: Designing dice for dice snobs [message #19291 is a reply to message #16979 ] Mon, 18 October 2010 10:28 UTC Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Heya

2 new dies.

Razor D6 Dice

http://i1080.photobucket.com/albums/j322/dizingof/RazorD6Dice606.jpg

http://i1080.photobucket.com/albums/j322/dizingof/RazorD6Dice607.jpg




Squares - D12 Dice

http://i1080.photobucket.com/albums/j322/dizingof/SquareD12Dice622.jpg

http://i1080.photobucket.com/albums/j322/dizingof/SquareD12Dice623.jpg





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Re: Designing dice for dice snobs [message #19294 is a reply to message #19291 ] Mon, 18 October 2010 11:12 UTC Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Just a thought, Dizingof, but wouldn't your Squares die have a high probability of landing between numbers?

Andy
Re: Designing dice for dice snobs [message #19295 is a reply to message #19294 ] Mon, 18 October 2010 11:43 UTC Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Drawn-Steel Hero wrote on Mon, 18 October 2010 11:12

Just a thought, Dizingof, but wouldn't your Squares die have a high probability of landing between numbers?

Andy


If you rotate the dice in the 3D viewer you'll see that the cubes are actually angled toward the location of a number - so gravity will make it land on a number where there is a wider area to land on.


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Re: Designing dice for dice snobs [message #19297 is a reply to message #19295 ] Mon, 18 October 2010 12:39 UTC Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Oh, I could see that they were angled; I was just thinking it was a lot of extra flat faces to potentially land on, even if they are a little smaller than the number faces. I wondered if it might be an idea to slightly curve the faces of the squares to help make sure the die 'steers' onto one number or another.

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Re: Designing dice for dice snobs [message #19318 is a reply to message #16979 ] Mon, 18 October 2010 18:31 UTC Go to previous messageGo to next message
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My latest die, to compliment the Stepped Die D6

'Step Twin - stepped edge die D6'
http://www.stop4stuff.com/shapeways/stepped-edge-d6/images/stepped-edge-die-step-twin-d6.jpg

As yet, untested in any material (i'll be ordering in stainless soon)
Re: Designing dice for dice snobs [message #19358 is a reply to message #19318 ] Tue, 19 October 2010 04:40 UTC Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I have been going through and double checking my math on all my dice. Now all my dice are perfectly waited to have a center of gravity in the center of the die(+-10um)

I have also made a new die. I call it the grid Die:
index.php?t=getfile&id=5544&private=0

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Re: Designing dice for dice snobs [message #19398 is a reply to message #16979 ] Tue, 19 October 2010 16:16 UTC Go to previous messageGo to next message
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@mctrivia

may i ask why aren't you rendering your models?
it adds alot to a potential customer .
there are plenty free renderers out there


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Re: Designing dice for dice snobs [message #19400 is a reply to message #19398 ] Tue, 19 October 2010 16:21 UTC Go to previous messageGo to next message
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the reason because i like the job shapeways does better then anything i have found so far. for some things i have temporarily made a extra model to render a different angle.

i do like your models better though. what do you use?


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Re: Designing dice for dice snobs [message #19401 is a reply to message #19297 ] Tue, 19 October 2010 16:37 UTC Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Drawn-Steel Hero wrote on Mon, 18 October 2010 12:39

Oh, I could see that they were angled; I was just thinking it was a lot of extra flat faces to potentially land on, even if they are a little smaller than the number faces. I wondered if it might be an idea to slightly curve the faces of the squares to help make sure the die 'steers' onto one number or another.

Andy


Thats a good idea i will look into it.


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@dizingof
sorry to jump in on a q asked of someone else

I'm of the view that even though a render can get near to the finished item delivered to the customer, the render doesn't actually represent the finished product particularly with plain stainless items.

But having said that, you do get very close and your silver coloured Floating D6 (in message #18565) looks almost just like Alumide.
Re: Designing dice for dice snobs [message #19405 is a reply to message #16979 ] Tue, 19 October 2010 17:04 UTC Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Thanks, if you've noticed, only recently i started to apply textures on my rendered models.... i've tested diferent textures that can match the final 3d printed models looks - sandstone or metal , like this one:
Print-A-Coaster

i'm still perfecting it,

i think it adds a lot to the sale process.





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Re: Designing dice for dice snobs [message #19423 is a reply to message #19405 ] Wed, 20 October 2010 02:12 UTC Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Added another die.

4 Dimensional D48.

http://www.shapeways.com/model/167274/4d_d48.html

index.php?t=getfile&id=5558&private=0



As for rendering I have pov-ray. Use it for simulating PCB before manufacturing. Will see if I can figure out how to use to simulate stl files.

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OK, that's pretty twisted. Smile
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i love 4D shapes. I just never thought of making a 4D die before. Thought about making it a D8 that needed to be rolled onto a 3D surface but the shadow just did not look good at all and it was impossible to render the 1 side as it would be inverted.

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mctrivia wrote on Wed, 20 October 2010 02:55

i love 4D shapes. I just never thought of making a 4D die before. Thought about making it a D8 that needed to be rolled onto a 3D surface but the shadow just did not look good at all and it was impossible to render the 1 side as it would be inverted.


Heh, I just left a comment to that effect (about landing on a cell) on the product page. Fair enough.

One of these days I'll give myself permission to blow $65 on one of Bathsheba's 120-cell models, my favorite polytope.
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that is a beautiful model.$372 in gold plated steal ouch


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Re: Designing dice for dice snobs [message #19447 is a reply to message #16979 ] Wed, 20 October 2010 15:55 UTC Go to previous messageGo to next message
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It has come to my attention that though both sides of each face can be landed on they are still the same face when looking at in the 4th dimension. so i have made http://www.shapeways.com/model/167487/4d_d24.html to correct this.


index.php?t=getfile&id=5562&private=0

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Re: Designing dice for dice snobs [message #19450 is a reply to message #19447 ] Wed, 20 October 2010 16:42 UTC Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Woah. That thing just blows my mind. *head explodes*


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Re: Designing dice for dice snobs [message #19452 is a reply to message #16979 ] Wed, 20 October 2010 16:56 UTC Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Unfortunatly your 3D shadow will only land showing 6 possible solutions that the actual 4D die could land on. Also I believe every face could land on either side doubling the possibilities in 4D space.


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Re: Designing dice for dice snobs [message #19454 is a reply to message #19452 ] Wed, 20 October 2010 17:12 UTC Go to previous messageGo to previous message
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yes the 3d model will only land on 6 sides. if it was printed in 4d though it could land on all 24 sides.

yes it is possible to land on each side of the face which is why i designed a d48 first. however each side of the face is still the same side(envision an edge on 2d die. it can land on 2 or 6 but it is still the same edge between them.


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