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 Topic: Alternative to white glaze?
Alternative to white glaze? [message #37704] Mon, 31 October 2011 20:36 UTC
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I'm interested in the question of whether Shapeways will offer other glaze options (colors would dramatically enhance the appeal of the ceramics, particular for larger surface area objects that are expensive for which decoration could increase customer perceived value dramatically).

There are some fairly easy to apply and user friendly FOOD SAFE glazes that often make spectacular looks to ceramics.
 Topic: Shapeways material sample video on flex and finished
Shapeways material sample video on flex and finished [message #35487] Thu, 29 September 2011 22:43 UTC
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Hey all I was hoping to locate a video on these materials shapeways offers

specifically im after a video of the " black detail "

super specifically:

video of the deflection in a piece of 1cm thick of the "black detail" material under ~10 lbs pressure

might anyone be able to help?

trying to build this: ml?gid=ug

10 lbs of force will be applied at the 2 large holes on the ends

 Topic: Question on Ring Co-Creator
Question on Ring Co-Creator [message #35130] Mon, 26 September 2011 15:41 UTC
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Hi guys,

Sorry if this in the wrong forum section, I wasn't sure where it fit best. On the shapeways ring creator, are you able to download your model after it's created? I want to be able to adjust it to a half size, so I'm hoping I can download it.

Since we have the ring co creator, any plans to do a bracelet style bangle in the future?

Thanks for your help!

[Updated on: Mon, 26 September 2011 15:54 UTC]

 Topic: 3ds Max texture export problem
icon9.gif  3ds Max texture export problem [message #35111] Mon, 26 September 2011 13:22 UTC
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Hi guys,

I've created a model (units: meters), baked a texture in it, and it looks correct in 3ds Max. But I can't get a reference to the accompanying texture to be included in a VRML97 export from 3ds Max. A texture reference is missing in the output file.

I've tried adding the texture reference manually to the VRML97 file with a text editor, but then Meshlab gave me errors about missing or too much parentheses, which I couldn't get fixed.

A Zip with the 3ds Max 2012 file and texture can be downloaded from here. Any help would be appreciated.

Many thanks in advance.

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 Topic: Help - FUD model too short in one direction
Help - FUD model too short in one direction [message #33965] Wed, 07 September 2011 20:36 UTC
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I printed an item in FUD back in June and I have just discovered today that the item is too short in the X direction (only) by about 2%. Unfortunately I didn't check immediately after receiving it so I don't know if this was a printing error or it has shrunk since. I have checked the key measurements of the STL file in netfabb and they are spot on so it is definitely not a model problem.

Has anyone had any similar experiences or suggestions as to what I can do?


[Updated on: Fri, 05 July 2013 10:48 UTC]

 Topic: where to grind on metal
where to grind on metal [message #32868] Wed, 17 August 2011 18:55 UTC
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on my Honey Ring and honey ring skinny I've had a customer have the same issue twice in a row. The issue is the hexagonal nub that protrudes at the top of each ring is a design intent and it gets ground off during finishing. see picture


After he reported this once and got a replacement the same mistake was repeated. I've ordered several of these and have not had this issue; each of my rings have been ground at the bottom. So I need more consistency in the finishing of these rings. Are the people doing the finishing looking at renderings or photo's of the design so they know what's a feature and what was added for casting?

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 Topic: Alumide clearance of plain bearing
Alumide clearance of plain bearing [message #32694] Mon, 15 August 2011 06:11 UTC
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I am wanting to make a part in Alumide (am firm on this for good reasons) and I want to make interlocking parts such as plain bearings.

I want to know if anyone else has done this in alumide. I know that people usually leave 0.5mm (I think) in SWF for this. But Alumide also gets shotblasted post-process and I want to know how much to take into account.

For example, if I was making a piston/cylinder set in SWF I would make the piston 10mm in diameter and I would make the mating cylinder 10.5mm in internal diameter.

But what about alumide?

Would love any advice - otherwise - I wil start research I guess.
 Topic: Ceramics
Ceramics [message #32474] Thu, 11 August 2011 01:06 UTC
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Would it be possible to have a ceramic model printed and skip the glazing process?


 Topic: EnvisionTEC Aureus
EnvisionTEC Aureus [message #31952] Tue, 02 August 2011 06:05 UTC
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Hi would you have any insight into growing problems using the Aureus? Here is what happened to me.

The green wic100 has had a problem of bonding to the lower tray onto the silicone(switched trays and used pic100 and it happened too). Now this maching has been zero'ed out and I don't think that is the problem. Maby somehow the model broke while growing. Also there is a battery backup on it. Now those trays are not cheep. I just thought I would check with people that are experts with this stuff.

I ususlly run the models overnite so that makes it hard to see whats going on.

Thank you
 Topic: Preview mesh has issues will it print correctly?
Preview mesh has issues will it print correctly? [message #31904] Mon, 01 August 2011 05:00 UTC
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I have a question about a new model I uploaded:

On the preview image and in Shapeways 3d viewer the model's eyes are gone.

I tested file in three 3d apps and none of them are having this issue. I checked normals and they are correct.

Will it print like this?

Thank you


[Updated on: Mon, 01 August 2011 05:43 UTC]

 Topic: Printing/orientation of round-bodied objects?
Printing/orientation of round-bodied objects? [message #31494] Mon, 25 July 2011 21:39 UTC
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Does part orientation need to be considered for round-bodied objects (created by a revolve or spin) in order for them to print properly? See the image below for a simplified version of what I'm talking about.


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 Topic: Printing accuracy in SWF
Printing accuracy in SWF [message #31337] Fri, 22 July 2011 09:36 UTC
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Hi there,

I just received a model I ordered in strong black & flexible - it's a little box with a sliding lid.

The sliding lid consists mostly of one big rectangular sheet, about 157x106 mm and 1 mm thick.

Sadly, one of the long sides is close to 1 mm longer than the other!

While it is easy enough to correct with a sharp knife, it is not the accuracy I hoped to see (and makes me wonder what the impact will be on other models I have planned to print).

Is this deviation (157 -> 158 mm in 106 mm across) normal or did something unusual happen there?

Thanks & regards,
 Topic: Thermal stability of WSF
Thermal stability of WSF [message #30801] Wed, 13 July 2011 14:47 UTC
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Just wanted to check out some of the information on your Materials page.

The Material comparison page states:
Heat resistance = 80/176 ºF.

Presumably this means 80 °C / 176 ºF (since the conversion is accurate).

But the datasheet gives very different information:
Thermal properties
Melting point EN ISO 11357-1
172 - 180 °C

Vicat softening temperature B/50 EN ISO 306
ASTM D1525
163°C / 325°F

Vicat softening temperature A/50 EN ISO 306
ASTM D1525
181°C / 358°F

This is important because dyeing WSF parts involves boiling them at 100°C. I have done this many times and have never seen a part soften, even slightly.

I suspect the information on the Materials page is wrong.


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 Topic: Glazed Ceramics - Colors?
Glazed Ceramics - Colors? [message #27730] Tue, 17 May 2011 21:57 UTC
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Ok i know.. you cranked out a new material and all we do is call for more... Laughing
But i would like to know if you think about adding different glazes to your portfolio at least after the ending of the testphase in august. I would realy like to order a chess set and it would be great if you had black or whatever other glaze color then...
Thanks for reading this
 Topic: Question about materials
Question about materials [message #26597] Tue, 26 April 2011 23:22 UTC
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I need to make something out of rubber but it doesn't seem to be one of the materials options. Do you have anything that is considered rubber or a very flexible material?

 Topic: Frosted Detail Length/Thickness ratio
Frosted Detail Length/Thickness ratio [message #26581] Tue, 26 April 2011 15:11 UTC
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Is there any advice yet for what is an acceptable ratio for length and thickness for this new material yet?

I've had a few problems in the with this as some of my models have sub 1 mm square sections in them .

Somewhere between 10:1 or 12:1 seems to be the limit in WSF . White detail seems to be less but I've not used it enough to get a definitive answer.

 Topic: STP upload?
STP upload? [message #26575] Tue, 26 April 2011 11:00 UTC
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Tried to upload a model in .STP format. I thought this was the most widely used format in 3D printing. Why is it not accepted in a Shapeway upload?
 Topic: Photoshaper image samples
icon5.gif  Photoshaper image samples [message #26324] Thu, 21 April 2011 18:41 UTC
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I would like to order a personalized photoshaper but I'm unable to decide between the materials available.
Do you have camera shots of products that were created using photoshaper with material like glass or metal. Would love to see the same picture in sandstone/glass/metal.

Thank you.
 Topic: 3D printed phone case
3D printed phone case [message #24306] Mon, 28 February 2011 07:02 UTC
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Hello all,

I'd like a suggestion,

I have a 3D printed phone case that I made with Shapeways, we used "Black detail" but the parts came back too flexible. We intend on using Polycarbonate with a percentage of glass fiber for regidity in the finished product. However we need to make a few "testers" to send out to people. Shapeways suggested Alumide or "Grey Robust".

However, I'm worried that Alumide is too brittle, and Grey Robust won't have the detail needed in a small part like a phone case.

I guess I could sand the rough edged of "Grey Robust" if it's an issue, what do you guys think?
 Topic: Best material to mimic aluminum with knurling?
Best material to mimic aluminum with knurling? [message #22512] Wed, 12 January 2011 14:45 UTC
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Hi all,

I've been thinking of trying Shapeways for a project soon as was wondering what the best material would be to print this item:

It's a dish, 8.5cm wide with 2mm thick walls and a ring of knurling around it. The final finish will mimic the look of machined aluminum. It will need to be able to stand up against a little bit of handling from time to time but it doesn't have to be completely rigid. I'm familiar with polyurethane casting resins and such but I have no idea how WSF, alumite or the other printing materials compare. Also, I do need a fair bit of smoothness so I was thinking that I might be able to undercoat with some spray filler to fill any pores if you all think that would work. I have already ruled out stainless due to the cost.

 Topic: polyurethane synthetic resin
polyurethane synthetic resin [message #22188] Wed, 05 January 2011 21:00 UTC
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polyurethane synthetic resin would be awesome to have. then people could cast dolls. It would be neat to have it in a few colors as well.

but in the meantime, For people who has played around with the different materials, what would you say is the best match for this?

I want to try casting a doll, and the type of doll I'm trying to make is cast in resin.

 Topic: lost wax casting
lost wax casting [message #21760] Mon, 20 December 2010 21:58 UTC
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i'm looking to print a ring of pretty light guage with movable parts - chain-type connection - to then use as a positive in a lost wax cast.

has anyone tried this? what material should i use that would melt out for the cast and need the least finishing after casting?

 Topic: Best Workflow from Mac
Best Workflow from Mac [message #19502] Thu, 21 October 2010 15:41 UTC
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I am working primarily in Sketchup and Rhino on a Mac and am looking for the best workflow to post files to Shapeways.

I have come across plugins like CADspan for Sketchup, but feel that there may be something better just in the export settings or file type (.dae, 3ds. stl) from Sketchup and Rhino which would help to reduce the cleanup in other programs like netfabb.

Any guidance would be much appreciated.

 Topic: WSF - Nylon - stress relief
WSF - Nylon - stress relief [message #18993] Wed, 13 October 2010 09:54 UTC
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I was discussing 3D printing with a friend today in relation to a project that I am working on.

Her comment was that nylon when molded via traditional processes ends up with a fair amount of internal stresses in the finished part. These are typically relieved via some form of heat treatment (eg. boil in water and let cool slowly) post production.

Examples of applications where this was important was propellors and impellors that had a tendency to fly appart if not appropriate processed to relieve the internal stresses.

I know a lot depends on the precise material, and exactly how the material is processed, when it comes to issues like this.

So my questions are:

1) is any requirement for stress relief with the WSF material as processed by the SLS process?

2) if so, is it done by Shapeways?

3) if not, then what is the recommended procedure?

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 Topic: Resin casting with printed ice models?
icon3.gif  Resin casting with printed ice models? [message #17523] Fri, 10 September 2010 11:41 UTC
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In the last livecasts you presented the superb new high detail materials which are to expect.
Now to complete your offered material options it would be great
if you would make the other end of the size spectrum accessible too.
(sorry to burry you with work suggestions)

In the Forum there seems to be quite an interest in cheap large scale printing:
Home » Support » Feedback » New Material für objects mp;start=0&S=2c0ea75a372f131596fc926e93cb6996
Home » Community » General Discussion » Mcor Matrix Paper Printer (older thread) 023a09984cc2342a770acbd7f&th=491&goto=1943

I'am interested in larger scale printing too,
so I thought about what process could be cheap in terms of material costs
and had a pretty unusual idea, which I want to share.

You could try out the following:
First print a negative form out of Water-ice
then use this form as a cast for a suitable resin.

Has this been tried or has been thought about it?

An experiment wouldn't take much effort if that where true:
But sadly it's just an april hoax Grrr Smile

Nontheless cool ice printing is possible:
( you could fund the researchers there Wink )
Or is there already a comercial version of this aviable?

The benefits would be:
Water & Resin should be pretty cheap.
With different Fillings (possibly cheaper then resin) a multitude of materials could be produced.
The Removal of cast happens on it own => no manual cleaning labour.
The shape of the cast doesn't restrict the design space!
The detail should be acceptable although
detail isn't so critical for larger scale objects.

Of course some problems could arise:
The exothermic reaction heat may melt the ice.
Resin which cures at subzero temperatures probably
won't be as cheap as the one used in masses for boats?
With a quick search I found resins with a minimum curing temperature of 2°C which might work.
The manual handlig of resin may be too expensive.
Low temperatures rise the resins viscosity and so rise the minimum wallthickness.

What do you think?
 Topic: has anyone know how to upload a textured mesh
has anyone know how to upload a textured mesh [message #16907] Sun, 29 August 2010 08:38 UTC
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I just uploaded a textured mesh to shapeways(maya export dae file format), but the uploaded mesh cant show texture in shapeways. can anyone try it before? And teach me how to upload a textured mesh.

 Topic: Minimum thickness on non structural parts
Minimum thickness on non structural parts [message #11188] Sun, 28 March 2010 20:06 UTC
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Short question;
Is it possible to print thiner parts then the specified minimum wall thickness, if it is not critical to the whole model stability?

I know of ml where the tentacle/arms are a bit thinner.

I was thinking of smaller metal sew-on emblems and full color sandstone model figures for model train stuff. (just quick sketches)
As they are so small themselves that there is nearly no weight/force stressing these parts, would it be possible?
What is the minimum tollerance?
 Topic: 3D Printing for Casting. Need some advice
3D Printing for Casting. Need some advice [message #9643] Sat, 06 February 2010 10:29 UTC
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Hi everyone. I modeled a custom ring in Rhino, which I wanna get casted in gold (it's like a family ring kind of thing), and I need an acutal solid model. From what I understand the best option for me would be wax printing, in order to use the wax model with the lost wax casting process, but as you know, Shapeways doesn't offer that material.
What are my options then? I saw they offer different kinds of plastic materials, and stainless steel. I just want the model to be detailed and the surface to be smooth.
Any advice would be appreciated.
thank you
 Topic: normals question
normals question [message #8663] Thu, 31 December 2009 13:52 UTC
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link to the Image

The top picture is incorrect in Blender but correct in the site's preview image.
The bottom picture is correct in Blender, but the normals are inverted in the preview image.

Will one not print? Or will the printer treat both versions the same and ignore the normal directions? Which one should be used?

This is odd as I've uploaded meshes made with blender before and never had this problem.
 Topic: Spec related to metal printing
Spec related to metal printing [message #8026] Wed, 02 December 2009 09:54 UTC
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I wonder what to consider when designing a metal part. Peter told me details of 0,1 mm will show. He also told me to have wallthicknesses of at least 3 mm (maybe a little less for small products).

When designing the housing of something like a fountain pen such object becomes enormous and very heavy !
So, what is possible with the metal printing technique Shapeways is using and how is it effected by the printing direction? Any specs on this ?

 Topic: cannot choose White, Strong & Flexible
cannot choose White, Strong & Flexible [message #7920] Fri, 27 November 2009 04:53 UTC
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Hello, i'm new on this great site and have a question.
I want to use the material White, Strong & Flexible for my design: Inward.
However It was not possible to select PA 2200.

Uploaded two other files to explore the problem.
half Inward:
They could be made out of PA2200.

Now i suppose the space inside the model Inward under the rim and bottom (ca 5mm) is too small to pour the powder out of the product.
Is this correct and must there be another hole in the product, or did i simply made somewhere a mistake?

Thanks in advance ...

 Topic: Advise + Printing Wooden Parts with German Invention
Advise + Printing Wooden Parts with German Invention [message #5718] Thu, 06 August 2009 22:56 UTC
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US researchers are researching casting wood like a plastic for 60 years. But they did not succeed .
Wood contains 3 main material , lignin , cellulose and hemicellulose.
Special material which makes wood strong is lignin.
German Fraunhofer Institute finally succeeded to add some chemicals in to the lignin and produce heat meltable and seting wood with it.
But they keep the formula secret.
They sell this heat meltable wood with german Tecnaro company.
You buy the cookie size wood pieces from them , melt and do your job.
I think they cost 5 dollars per kilogram , produce ebony density and comes with many colors.
If you make a powder from it and print objects with wood , it would be lovely.
It melts 60 Celcius degrees.

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 Topic: about thin walls
about thin walls [message #5008] Wed, 24 June 2009 12:18 UTC
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I have a little "problem" with wall thickness....

how do you calculate the "limit" of printability of a model ?
I know there's 1mm min for "dtail" and 0.7 for WSF, but... sometimes I don't know in witch case we can pass through this.

Here is an example that will be clearer :
If I want to print a "cone" of 3cmx3cmx3cm.... the end of the cone is going smaller and smaller... and it pass always under the 1mm limit !

other example :
Here is an Ogre..... (picture below)
It's a 3.9cm figurine.... it has passed succesfully the "upload" checks...
but the staples of the shoes are only 0.5mm thick.
Will the model be "unprintable" or "printable" ?

Finaly a last question : is the limit fixed by the printers or is this a limit you've decided to assure resistance ?

 Topic: Distortion on printed WSP part ?
Distortion on printed WSP part ? [message #4182] Wed, 29 April 2009 21:14 UTC
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I've just received my first part made of WSF, and on a first inspection I have a couple questions that some of you might be able to answer...

- the part is slightly distorted (bent) in one of the axes. About 1mm on a 160mm length. Is that to be expected as part of the process and the achievable precision, or it just didn't turn out completely Ok ???
- Also, the model had a hole with a 1mm diameter, and it didn't came out. Was it too small ?

 Topic: Stainless steel & bronze materials
icon5.gif  Stainless steel & bronze materials [message #3613] Sun, 29 March 2009 00:26 UTC
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I know they're rather new, but I was hoping for some details about the two new metal printing options; particle size, level of achievable detail, min wall thickness, sintering temps, post-working possibilities and experience, etc.

Even anecdotal info would be greatly welcomed, as I hope to produce some rather small & complicated items in either metal over the next few months.

I was initially planning to produce the designs in PMC silver from a silicone mould. Being able to go straight to steel would solve some serious strength issues, but being able to effectively work the piece to add detail and improve surface finish is critical.

Yes, I am keeping an eye on Whistler's new thread. Smile
 Topic: Things I'd pay extra for
Things I'd pay extra for [message #3376] Mon, 16 March 2009 07:32 UTC
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Hi Guys, most of you know I get a real kick out of this service and community... I was just thinking about future directions for the media and I came upon a few things that I personally would definitely pay extra for in prints.

The main ones are as follows

    Higher polycount
    Finer printing layers
    Choice of print direction

Some of these options would massively improve my end use of the product and personally I'd pay a premium for these options separate to the service I already use happily.

What do you guys think? Any ideas?
 Topic: Warning, reset xform before exporting!
Warning, reset xform before exporting! [message #2164] Thu, 04 December 2008 11:12 UTC
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I just received my Shapeways model, and the model was.. deformed.


It was half the correct size, and squashed. At first I thought something must have gone wrong at Shapeways end, but after checking the 3D preview closer it turned out that my export was to blame. I had to apply 'reset xform' in MAX in order to correct the shape.

So as a cautionary tale, if you don't want to waste 22 like I did, be sure to double check your model in the 3D viewer. The preview angle made the model look correct, but upon closer inspection it was clearly very squshed.

This was an xmas gift for someone, so I hope my replacement gets here in time for me to paint it.
 Topic: teeny tiny letters?
teeny tiny letters? [message #1427] Thu, 25 September 2008 15:52 UTC
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I'm working on some finger rings and would like to know if anyone has done tests with alpha numeric characters at that scale.
What would be a good minimum height of the letters from top to bottom? 5mm max, or so.
Can anyone reccomend a good Type1 font for ledgibility?

I figure, worst case scenario I'll have to do it by hand and then displace the polys.
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 Topic: "Care Guide" on Bronze (and other metals?) - Great!
"Care Guide" on Bronze (and other metals?) - Great! [message #94324] Sat, 19 July 2014 01:26 UTC
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Hey Shapeways,

My last few prints in polished Bronze have come with a 'Care Guide' attached to them, and I want to say that this is a fantastic idea, and please don't ever stop! Since I pass these models on to customers, the care guide includes everything they'll need to know about taking care of their new jewelry, and for one-time buyers on Shapeways, the same holds true. Please keep including these care guides with every semi-precious and precious metal!

That's it really, just a two-thumbs-up post.
 Topic: Login Main page difficulties
Login Main page difficulties [message #93684] Thu, 10 July 2014 04:31 UTC
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This has been resolved,..thanks.

The pop up login from the main page is not working. The screen pops up, but the authentication doesn't work. I've tested its functionality in two different browsers. Can your IT support people look into this?

[Updated on: Thu, 10 July 2014 15:31 UTC]
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