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Shop management improvements - what do you want? [message #16569] Mon, 23 August 2010 14:31 UTC Go to next message
avatar robert  is currently offline robert
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I have some development time reserved for shop management improvements. And I would like to know from you guys what you want me to spend my time on.

This is only a first step. Please don't expect the world. I can do a lot of small improvements now. Or I can limit it to 1 big improvement.

Let me know. Please be specific on what you would like to see.

I will report back into this thread about the developments. I will keep this thread open for 1 week to capture your ideas and wishes.

Thanks!

- Robert
Re: Shop management improvements - what do you want? [message #16570 is a reply to message #16569 ] Mon, 23 August 2010 14:40 UTC Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Robby,

I know what slows me down, is how long it takes the pages to load. I'm pretty sure it's the render that is the biggest culprit in that speed. If there were a way to select a lower res or even no image at all. And I know the button didn't act 100% properly but I'm not seeing the next item button. That way I don't have to go back to my designs to pick the next design. Even better, a next shop item button, to skip over my stock of not for sale items.

Mike


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Re: Shop management improvements - what do you want? [message #16571 is a reply to message #16569 ] Mon, 23 August 2010 15:01 UTC Go to previous messageGo to next message
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1. I would love to see a (large maybe even scrollable) spreadsheet/list type interface for changing
properties multiple objects at once.
|------|-------------|------------|--------|-----------------|-----------------|
|      |   Name      |  Material  | Markup |   Availability  |  View state     |
|------|-------------|------------|--------|-----------------|-----------------|
|Img   |   Object A  | WSF        | $2.00  |   O             |  Allow ordering |
|      |             | Detail     |        |                 |                 |
|      |             | Steel      |        |                 |                 |
|------|-------------|------------|--------|-----------------|-----------------|            
|Img   |   Object B  | WSF        | $2.50  |   X             |  Show only      |
|      |             | Glass      |        |                 |                 |
|------|-------------|------------|--------|-----------------|-----------------|             


It doesn't have to be pretty, but it would be very handy for turning multiple models on/off or adding material restrictions.

2. I would love to see the option of a banner for shop section. perhaps a description/bumper/sub-shop page.

3. Extra view states would be handy :
- List and allow ordering (current show and allow ordering)
- Do not list. Allow ordering. (by private/direct link (initially just model nr, pehraps later something more fancy)
- List only
- Show only (same private link thing as above)

4. An option to hide "unavailable" models from our own view of our model listing. (so we can see better what the customer sees, without logging off/switxhing browser. etc)


That's it for now Wink

Cheers,

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Re: Shop management improvements - what do you want? [message #16573 is a reply to message #16569 ] Mon, 23 August 2010 15:19 UTC Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Some small and some big wishes

Image Handling
- generate pictures for the items from different angles per default
- or alternatively allow to change the viewing angle of the generated picture
- allow the generation of deep links to this images (currently it's a script with paramter). Many forums don't allow this.
- beautify pictures which have not the normal picture ratio
- allow pictures for different materials

Material classes
- allow material classes for shops defined by the owner, so that we can do material changes for many objects in one step

Better Navigation
- faster page load
- better placement of next/previous buttons (bart knows that)
- link to shop home on every side when logged in
- stay at the item when ordering so that I don't have to move back from the basket

One type of Input Field for Html
- Formatting tools like in this window for every input field: shop description, item description

Sell objects
- Allow not public visible objects which are nevertheless orderable. (For example by providing the link to specific customers) (see also virtox).
- Interface to buy or transfer money(paybal or earned by markup) to vouchers which could be given to dedicated customers of a shop.

Statistics
- Weigths for polularity, so that each shop owner can customize the calculation formula to his needs.

LIst (as virtox)
- of the properties of your shop items, even changeable would be great.

3d Objects

- possibility to download the uploaded file
- or store a MD5 checksum of the uploaded file to verify which version has been uploaded to shapeways (I have a lot of versions, sometimes I'm not sure)

Model page
- new layout of the model page. It developed during the time by adding new functionality. Maybe it's time to change the layout ...

Woody64

[Updated on: Mon, 30 August 2010 19:23 UTC]


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Re: Shop management improvements - what do you want? [message #16574 is a reply to message #16569 ] Mon, 23 August 2010 15:21 UTC Go to previous messageGo to next message
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My wishes:

1° Statistics: buyers country, buyers referrer, top 10 referrers for every shop item.

2° For object A , you need to buy 2 parts in wsf, 1 part in alumide. I would like to see some kind of part grouping, to allow the buyer to know the total price and allow him to put the entire object in his shopping cart in one operation.

[Updated on: Mon, 30 August 2010 06:45 UTC]

Re: Shop management improvements - what do you want? [message #16576 is a reply to message #16569 ] Mon, 23 August 2010 16:24 UTC Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I'm new to Shops, but I do have a feature request for custom orders:

In the case of making a custom model for a customer, I'd like to be able to allow them to view and order their model, but not anyone else. Right now you can set a model to be viewable by either only yourself or everyone.

Perhaps there could be a way to make models viewable to only certain users? Maybe by putting in their email address in the model details? That way when they're logged in (which they have to be in order to purchase anyway), the system would know that they are allowed to view and purchase the model.
Re: Shop management improvements - what do you want? [message #16675 is a reply to message #16569 ] Wed, 25 August 2010 20:44 UTC Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Could we somehow set a recommended/default/preferred material per model ?

I have some designs which I wish to mainly market in bronze,
but I still would like to leave open the material options.

So it would be cool if the galleries could show the price for the model in the preferred material, instead of just the lowest or wsf price.

Edit : Oops request was already here

[Updated on: Thu, 26 August 2010 11:32 UTC]


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Re: Shop management improvements - what do you want? [message #16679 is a reply to message #16569 ] Wed, 25 August 2010 21:27 UTC Go to previous messageGo to next message
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One big thing: composite models/part grouping <-- Hugely important to me

Smaller things, in order of importance:
- Proper image resizing/handling. Things look especially bad in IE.
- More options for formatting
- Possibility to include or send a message to customers (assembly instructions/thank you note)
- Stats about customers
- The ability to give out model-specific discount vouchers (towards our markup)
Re: Shop management improvements - what do you want? [message #16879 is a reply to message #16569 ] Sat, 28 August 2010 13:57 UTC Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I Think that the "To Do" list for Personalized orders should be first.

I have My Designs page set to show 10 rows (so that I can see all my models) but that makes it difficult to see the To Do list, which in my opinion, is the most important item on the My Designs page.


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Re: Shop management improvements - what do you want? [message #17090 is a reply to message #16569 ] Wed, 01 September 2010 09:22 UTC Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I was trying to change the designated section of one of my models within my shop and I can't find a way to do that after I have created the listing.
Am I missing something or there really isn't an ''edit'' option available??
Re: Shop management improvements - what do you want? [message #17091 is a reply to message #17090 ] Wed, 01 September 2010 09:43 UTC Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Sylook wrote on Wed, 01 September 2010 09:22

I was trying to change the designated section of one of my models within my shop and I can't find a way to do that after I have created the listing.
Am I missing something or there really isn't an ''edit'' option available??


It used to be possible to add models to shop categories after uploading them, but since the latest update, that no longer seems to be the case (at least not in Internet Explorer).
Re: Shop management improvements - what do you want? [message #17092 is a reply to message #17091 ] Wed, 01 September 2010 09:50 UTC Go to previous messageGo to next message
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GHP wrote on Wed, 01 September 2010 09:43



It used to be possible to add models to shop categories after uploading them, but since the latest update, that no longer seems to be the case (at least not in Internet Explorer).


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Re: Shop management improvements - what do you want? [message #17093 is a reply to message #17090 ] Wed, 01 September 2010 10:02 UTC Go to previous messageGo to next message
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As Virtox mentioned here before, the things in this thread.
http://www.shapeways.com/forum/index.php?t=msg&goto=1671 3
might be relevant.

which are:
# A "Default" material for a model without necessarily making it unavailable in anything else.
# material dependend markup.
Re: Shop management improvements - what do you want? [message #17097 is a reply to message #17093 ] Wed, 01 September 2010 13:31 UTC Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Thanks for all the feedback.

I will close this topic now. But feel free to open another one to keep discussing.

I will keep you posted on what we will take on to improve shop management.

In any case I will put all requests on the wish list so we won't forget if we would not choose any particular feature for this iteration.

Again thanks for your feedback. I love it!

Best,

Robert
Re: Shop management improvements - what do you want? [message #17967 is a reply to message #17097 ] Fri, 17 September 2010 15:37 UTC Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Hi guys,

Again thanks for all the feedback.

The idea now is to improve the way you can define the markup and materials for your show. Please the screenshot below.

The idea is to create a single interface where you can select the materials in which your model is available and set the markup including the effect on the pricing.

index.php?t=getfile&id=5133&private=0

And yes it looks a *lot* like the idea Virtox gave us. Thanks for that!

Let me know what you think!

Robert

Re: Shop management improvements - what do you want? [message #17968 is a reply to message #16569 ] Fri, 17 September 2010 15:40 UTC Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Wonderful. Change it to have the possibility of material specific mark ups and I'll love it even more.


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Re: Shop management improvements - what do you want? [message #18149 is a reply to message #17968 ] Wed, 22 September 2010 12:01 UTC Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Agree, even better if we have material specific mark-ups. Or rather even a set price, and let the mark-up be calculated from that.


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Re: Shop management improvements - what do you want? [message #18151 is a reply to message #16569 ] Wed, 22 September 2010 12:27 UTC Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I like the idea of being able to set the price and letting the markup be calculated from that. I had the image of a couple of boxes where you'd be able to change the markup or the final price, and if you changed the markup the price would change, and if you changed the price, the markup would reset automatically. Sort of like altering dependent fields in a spreadsheet.
That way, you could choose to either make a specific amount of markup per model, or to have neat set prices.
I can see how this would be particularly useful if you have a series of models which match but have slightly different masses, and you wanted the prices to match.

The thing I'm not sure about with the set prices, though, is the tax issue. Tax varies according to the location of the viewer, so the price you see isn't necessarily the same price they see. But then I guess the server does those sort of calculations automatically anyway, and it's just a matter of reversing the process.

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Re: Shop management improvements - what do you want? [message #18152 is a reply to message #16569 ] Wed, 22 September 2010 13:33 UTC Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Yes, this looks perfect!
No more playing with adding/removing materials
very slowly...and also that each material could have own mark-up
would be very nice!

I think that material images and the whole way how to show materials
should be changed. This is crucial for everyone but the most for the consumers
who's not familiar with Shapeways. Of course the best would be photorealistic rendings from the object, but I understand that's something for the future. But maybe now when you go over the material button it would make bigger image
over it!? And this image would be of course a real photo of the material. Every material would be the same shape/shapes, which shows round and straight surfaces, such as ball, cube and cylinder. Also there could be dimensions below the objects to understand scale.

Best,
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Re: Shop management improvements - what do you want? [message #18153 is a reply to message #18152 ] Wed, 22 September 2010 13:36 UTC Go to previous messageGo to next message
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This looks great Salokannel!


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Re: Shop management improvements - what do you want? [message #18154 is a reply to message #17967 ] Wed, 22 September 2010 13:46 UTC Go to previous messageGo to next message
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For my models, the "color" of the material does not matter, and I couldn't imagine charging differently per color. The only thing that matters for my models is the wall thickness.

A smaller set of choices for 0.7mm, 1.0mm and 3.0mm, coupled with a percentage markup would work well for me.

FYI.. If you do implement a percentage markup, it'd be very handy to have a default percentage (set in my profile) that would be applied to all uploads automatically.


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Re: Shop management improvements - what do you want? [message #18159 is a reply to message #17967 ] Wed, 22 September 2010 17:01 UTC Go to previous messageGo to next message
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this looks great!
Re: Shop management improvements - what do you want? [message #18172 is a reply to message #18154 ] Wed, 22 September 2010 19:11 UTC Go to previous messageGo to next message
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stonysmith wrote on Wed, 22 September 2010 13:46

For my models, the "color" of the material does not matter, and I couldn't imagine charging differently per color. The only thing that matters for my models is the wall thickness.

I assume the colour listings cover the fact that SW charge different amounts for the colours due to post-processing costs.

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Hi!

I reeeeally like the idea of the new material "matrix" that Virtox suggested and Robert showed a preliminary draft of.

I agree with those that want either material specific markup or a fixed price (with automatic markup calculation)..

I also think that the previously mentioned markup as a percentage would also make sense when a model is available in both cheap and pricey materials.


The material preview ideas from Salokannel looks like a great idea:
Some basic shapes with dimensions clearly visible and photos taken in a static scenario (lightbox with a fixed hotshoe mount/tripod-screw mount) so they always look the same.
I think that would be more informative/intuitive to a casual browser that's not familiar with your services.

Cheers!
Re: Shop management improvements - what do you want? [message #18670 is a reply to message #18204 ] Sun, 03 October 2010 20:12 UTC Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Stopped some minute ago with a similar activity:
Assigning my items to shop categories, Stepping through item per item and add it or remove from a shop category. After half an hour work only two dozens of items done.

Still in the opinion that assigning items to material classes would be much better.
So a material class can be changed in the shop edit. And adding and removing materials would be very straightforward. Handling the assignements of items to material classes in the proposed list form would be then also fine.

Would be great to incorporate that ...

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Re: Shop management improvements - what do you want? [message #18882 is a reply to message #18670 ] Sun, 10 October 2010 01:44 UTC Go to previous messageGo to next message
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wow, i LOVE that matrix. It's just what i was wishing for!!!

A few things, unrelated to markups:
RE: "MY ORDERS"

1) this seems simple to me, with the very little knowledge of coding that i have (i learned BASIC in high school): can we get a "date" category on the list of "my orders"?

2) if there was a way to download a spreadsheet of my orders with columns such as-
order or invoice number, date, item, material, price
i would love you forever. i am so sick of copying the information over to a spreadsheet so i can manage my own inventory.

3) when i click on the "order number" on the list, all i get is a blank pdf. i assume that's supposed to be a copy of my order, but it doesn't work. is it my browser? i'm running safari on os 10.6.4.

4) the other day my "my orders" list changed significantly. first off, it flipped upside down so my new orders are now at the bottom. i don't like this change. i can't find a way to invert it. second, there are now items on the list that say "aborted" or "resumed" next to them. these items link to a blank order page with no information on it. i think i cancelled a whole order once. but there a number of these orders on my list. i haven't a clue what resumed is supposed to mean.


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5): it would be really great if i i could organize my own designs into folders/categories. for instance- i have a lot of files that are NOT for sale on shapeways because things come in different sizes. for every one co-creator for sale here, i have 4-10 different actual files for different sizes. instead of having to scroll through all my files to find the one i want, it would be really awesome if i could organize them myself.

Thanks!
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Re: Shop management improvements - what do you want? [message #18883 is a reply to message #18882 ] Sun, 10 October 2010 01:51 UTC Go to previous messageGo to next message
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i forgot to mention that material-specific markups, percentage based markups, or a set price and a markup determined from that *for each material but not each color* would all be improvements on that matrix. ideally i'd like to see material-specific markups by material category. for instance: i set a markup for the model in steel, a markup for the model in colored strong and flexible, a markup for the model in white s&f, a markup for the model in matte gold, etc. i don't want to have to set a markup for each of the colors every season, though. that's annoying.

this is basically the same as having a fixed price per material that determines the markup, unless i don't understand?


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Re: Shop management improvements - what do you want? [message #18884 is a reply to message #18883 ] Sun, 10 October 2010 02:16 UTC Go to previous messageGo to next message
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here's my material selector. the material images were fine, i just couldn't fit them with the name and price. it's nice to have everything very clear- the whole material name, how the price was determined, and a markup for each material category.

index.php?t=getfile&id=5405&private=0


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Re: Shop management improvements - what do you want? [message #19065 is a reply to message #16569 ] Thu, 14 October 2010 08:36 UTC Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I'd really like to see the materials list always show in alphabetical order.

When ever I have to click "add all" to the material list I don't want people to use, and then click the icon (trashcan?) to put just a few materials back in, it would be so much easier to find the ones I want if they were in alphabetical order.

Thanks.


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Re: Shop management improvements - what do you want? [message #19095 is a reply to message #19065 ] Thu, 14 October 2010 14:28 UTC Go to previous messageGo to next message
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i would actually prefer if the materials were sorted by category- metal, plastic, etc and THEN alphabetically. but either way, they should always be in the SAME order. right now, when you "add all" and then hit your first trashcan, the order changes when it reloads the list.


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Re: Shop management improvements - what do you want? [message #20180 is a reply to message #19095 ] Sat, 06 November 2010 18:59 UTC Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I would have this small enhancements:

1) Order overview spreadsheet, column "Model Title", it doesn't contain all the title of my model. I know my models have a long name but is needed to make it clear what is it.

2) Email that i receive when a model is bought, again it doesn't show the full title. This make difficult to track what models have been sold.

Thanks
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I would like to offer my models in different forms (ie. colour, no-colour, small, medium, large). Is it possible to display these possibilities in the store without having to display them as separate models?

For example,
- I upload the different colour models, and have them displayed along-side the different materials
- have a pulldown tab showing different size options and their prices.

For some of my models, I would like to have 3 sizes and 6 colour schemes. Instead of having 18 models in my shop, it would be cleaner to have a single model, from which the options are selectable.

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