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Photo reliefs [message #17489] Thu, 09 September 2010 12:08 UTC Go to next message
avatar kontor_apart  is currently offline kontor_apart
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After quite some experimentation and testing, we are now able to show you this new Co-Creator item.

The Co-Creator takes a single, reasonable portrait picture of people or animals and we will convert it into a 3D photo-relief.
The color sandstone prints come in standard photo formats and can be put onto an ordinary photo frame.

index.php?t=getfile&id=4951&private=0
index.php?t=getfile&id=4952&private=0
index.php?t=getfile&id=4953&private=0

One of the biggest obstacles in the process was to produce VRML files that Shapeways will digest properly.
The usual Meshlab this, Netfabb that did not get us very far ...

We would love to make these items cheaper if somebody could convince Shapeways to lessen their material specs on color sandstone.

Re: Photo reliefs [message #17491 is a reply to message #17489 ] Thu, 09 September 2010 12:19 UTC Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Is it hollow in the back, or is it thicker where it is raised? if you could make it uniform thickness would cut some cost. I have that pic of Einstein up on my wall. Along with 2 other great minds, Tesla, and DaVinci


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Re: Photo reliefs [message #17494 is a reply to message #17489 ] Thu, 09 September 2010 12:49 UTC Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Very nice!!!

How did you do it?

If you're ready we can take of our version and promote yours

Just let me know Wink

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Re: Photo reliefs [message #17495 is a reply to message #17494 ] Thu, 09 September 2010 13:03 UTC Go to previous messageGo to next message
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WOW,

They are really impressive.

What is the maximum depth?


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Re: Photo reliefs [message #17498 is a reply to message #17495 ] Thu, 09 September 2010 15:21 UTC Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Thanks for featuring this so quickly.

The 3D conversion is actually a manual design step, the overall process is fairly complex with several tools involved.

The reliefs are hollow in the back and tight to the color sandstone specs. At this time, we cannot go any closer without the risk of a rejected order.

index.php?t=getfile&id=4956&private=0

A 13x9 picture will usually be about 3 cm thick, possibly a little more depending on the motif.

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Re: Photo reliefs [message #17501 is a reply to message #17489 ] Thu, 09 September 2010 16:33 UTC Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I don't know if you are aware of this software, Photosculpt, but it lets you take 2 photos, 10-20º apart, and automatically creates a textured 3D model. That could make more realistic photo reliefs than just using the one photo. Just a thought.


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Re: Photo reliefs [message #17502 is a reply to message #17498 ] Thu, 09 September 2010 16:45 UTC Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Very cool. I'm scared to ask how long the manual part takes. What's the depth? Does it depend on the pic or do you have a set depth for the closest point to the camera?


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Re: Photo reliefs [message #17507 is a reply to message #17489 ] Thu, 09 September 2010 20:11 UTC Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Ok, this is just freaky. I like it! And I think it will do as well as Shapeways light photos!

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Re: Photo reliefs [message #17519 is a reply to message #17501 ] Fri, 10 September 2010 08:23 UTC Go to previous messageGo to next message
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We are aware of such software solutions. While we were not overly impressed by the results, the more important question is really:
  • How would you manage to get such photos from Einstein or the Dutch queen ?

On the serious side:
Chances are high that you have a suitable snapshot from your wedding (20 years ago), your kids, your grandfather, etc., but it's unlikely that you have -or can produce- pictures which would satisfy the requirements of the software...

Here is another one to illustrate my point (faces pixelated to protect the customer)
index.php?t=getfile&id=4960&private=0

Re: Photo reliefs [message #17520 is a reply to message #17519 ] Fri, 10 September 2010 10:44 UTC Go to previous messageGo to next message
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trompevenlo wrote on Fri, 10 September 2010 08:23

We are aware of such software solutions. While we were not overly impressed by the results, the more important question is really:
  • How would you manage to get such photos from Einstein or the Dutch queen ?


Or even the cat, for that matter - it's hard enough getting it to stay stll for one photo... Razz

Andy

[Updated on: Fri, 10 September 2010 10:44 UTC]

Re: Photo reliefs [message #17535 is a reply to message #17520 ] Fri, 10 September 2010 16:28 UTC Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Good point. But for the cat, just use 2 cameras! Laughing


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Re: Photo reliefs [message #17552 is a reply to message #17535 ] Fri, 10 September 2010 20:48 UTC Go to previous messageGo to next message
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exactly ... I know I've seen someone who made a stereoscopic camera connector as a 3d printed object. Perhaps someone will, or has already made a similar object for connecting cameras to make this sort of thing.

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Re: Photo reliefs [message #17558 is a reply to message #17489 ] Fri, 10 September 2010 22:35 UTC Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Great work.

Now if only Shapeways White was White and not yellowish.

I hate to mention it again.. but i suspect the infusion process kills the white in the full color 3D printing.


For an actual photo printing, in my opinion, white must remain white otherwise the picture looks dim with somewhat an 'old photo' tint.

I wish there was a way perhaps to order a full color print without the infusion process.
Few coats of clear epoxy spray did a great job for me on my Coasters of iPhone Apps.

The colors became more shiny and vibrant and the coaster is very tough (dropped it from 1.5 M and it didn't break)



Just my (humble) 2c Wink



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[Updated on: Fri, 10 September 2010 22:36 UTC]


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Re: Photo reliefs [message #17559 is a reply to message #17489 ] Fri, 10 September 2010 22:39 UTC Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Is it the infusion process, or is it just the base tint of the gypsum?

Andy
Re: Photo reliefs [message #17562 is a reply to message #17489 ] Fri, 10 September 2010 23:13 UTC Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I've been wondering if absolutely white areas of the print (RGB=<255,255,255>) are not tinted at all, leaving the just base material color? If so, it may help to replace absolute white with off-white (e.g. RGB=<254,254,254>).

This is pure speculation on my part, however.

(Edit: comparison of the printed 3D relief cat with the photo suggests that this is probably not the case.)

[Updated on: Fri, 10 September 2010 23:19 UTC]

Re: Photo reliefs [message #17563 is a reply to message #17489 ] Fri, 10 September 2010 23:45 UTC Go to previous message
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Here is what customer support said on this subject on my thread :

http://www.shapeways.com/forum/index.php?t=msg&S=d25c6bf 773e35783765ba888cfaa5a13&th=2537&goto=12773#msg_127 73



Check out how white should be and how its so important for the shades of colors (see the waves, the sword etc..)

index.php?t=getfile&id=4974&private=0


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