Silver Cross Pendant

Discussion in 'My Shapeways Order Arrived' started by SGDesigns, Oct 8, 2012.

  1. SGDesigns
    SGDesigns New Member
    Hi all.. I want to share my new pendant I received the other day. I got it in the standard silver with no gloss and not patina, took a picture of it before I added the patina and another picture after I added patina to it. Anyone else adding patina to their silver???? Below are some before and after pictures.

    Final result

    Ornate Cross Pendant Final Results.jpg

    Before - standard silver with no gloss and no patina

    Silver cross with no patina and no gloss.jpg

    After - Standard silver with patina and lightly polished

    Cross Pendant with patina and polish.jpg

    Last edited: Oct 8, 2012
  2. bdeaver
    bdeaver New Member
    Gorgeous! Nice detail. The patina adds a lot. What do you use to get the patina?
  3. SGDesigns
    SGDesigns New Member
    I use the Liver of Sulphur XL GEL, they come in little bottles. Its easier to do then most people think. Im always looking for new ways to finish silver, you wont believe the crazy techniques that are out there and real. Ive been asked how I do this, im probably going to make some kind of step by step tutorial on this. I think adding patina to a piece brings out the detail.

    Last edited: Oct 11, 2012
  4. AM3D
    AM3D New Member
    That's very nice! I would also appreciate a tutorial from you on how you patina and polish. Really like your other designs too. :)
  5. SGDesigns
    SGDesigns New Member
    Ill be getting another cross shortly, Ive never done a video tutorial but Ill give it a shot, most likely with lots of editing. LOL... I'll do a step by step walkthrough on the entire process, post links to where you can buy affordable materials needed and most are easily accessible. Its a lot easier to do then I thought.

    Last edited: Oct 11, 2012
  6. AM3D
    AM3D New Member
    That would be real nice. I'll look forward to it.
  7. ao2design
    ao2design New Member
    Great model, post processing, and photography. Thanks for sharing.
  8. Ray716
    Ray716 New Member
    While i'm not big on crosses in and of them selves.. i'm really digging the detail for this design!!! Fantastic work. What program did you use? And what was your basic workflow process for building this particular model?

  9. SGDesigns
    SGDesigns New Member
    Thanks, I use Zbrush 4r4, 3ds MAX 12 and Rhino 4 but mainly I use Zbrush 4r4. This cross was easier then youd think. The pattern and patina is what makes this pendant look nice. Its all in the pattern. I created a solid outline of the cross, masked the outer rim and added a tilable pattern inside the rim that I did on photoshop and with that pattern I was able to use it as an alpha/bass relief.
    Last edited: Oct 16, 2012
  10. Ray716
    Ray716 New Member
    Alpha/bass relief, excellent.. I've been meaning to figure out how to do that recently in Blender. THANKS! Again, it looks great!

  11. SGDesigns
    SGDesigns New Member
    If you need help making any patterns into alpha/bass relief just let me know, I have photoshop, I can help you out.
  12. Ray716
    Ray716 New Member
    sweet thanks! That will be awesome. I've been doing some research on displacement maps for blender :D

  13. SGDesigns
    SGDesigns New Member
    I recommend you watch this. Its meant for zBrush but it gives you a general idea on what those displacement maps do.

    Last edited: Oct 21, 2012
  14. SGDesigns
    SGDesigns New Member
    Check your PM.
  15. Ray716
    Ray716 New Member
    Awesome, Thanks! The help is MUCH appreciated!

  16. Syncopator
    Syncopator New Member
    What are the dimensions of this piece? I'm looking to do something in silver and want to get an idea of what level of detail is possible. You can get the tech specs, but once you see an actual piece and know how big it is, a picture is worth a thousand tech specs....
  17. SGDesigns
    SGDesigns New Member
    I try to push the level of detail to its limit on a lot of my designs. As long as you follow the design rules for silver, there shouldnt be any worries. I used to have the same concerns, but after getting my first silver piece, im confident in the accuracy silver offers.
    The half spheres all over this cross are 0.8mm wide and the criss crossing lines are 0.5mm wide. In the picture, the spheres look smaller then the criss crossing lines, but thats only because the top round part of them are polished. You can go as small as 0.3mm and it will still show.
    The loop that the chain goes through has small dimples surrounding my logo, I'll take a picture of it for you and update this post. I know most people don't look at the loop, but I know its there.
    The bandana detail in my skull bead is 0.3mm-0.4mm and the ring has engravings as small as 0.4mm-0.5mm.
    Check out my vampire skull ring. the gap between the front teeth are 0.5mm wide and the smallest tooth gap is 0.3mm wide and they are all crisp and clearly visible.
    Engravings and embossing width should equal its height but if you plan on hand polishing your silver, a little more height and/or depth wont hurt and patina will make it look even better. I know I gave you more information then you asked for, but this would have helped me a lot when I first started.

    This pendant is 2.5 inches tall, 1.5 inches wide and 1/3 inch thick
    My next project will be a bracelet and each link will be ornately engraved, i'm also designing a custom clasp also detailed all over.

    syncopator, I seen your other post about checking your model. I commented on that post, let me know if you need any help.

    Last edited: Oct 23, 2012
  18. Fredd
    Fredd New Member
    Sal, what was the poly count res on the model for such high detail using mapping?
  19. SGDesigns
    SGDesigns New Member

    This one has 978,262. Both sides are identical in detail. I can bring it down to half as much, but I don't want to affect the detail.

    Last edited: Oct 23, 2012