Iris v2 and Rings arrived...

Discussion in 'My Shapeways Order Arrived' started by 8177_deleted, Dec 11, 2008.

  1. 8177_deleted
    8177_deleted Member
    The rings and the iris arrived and both are big failures.

    I didn't have high hopes on the iris after reading what the others posted but the rings are a disappointment. It seems the orientation of the piece plays a large role in the print outcome. The 'z' axis doesn't seem to be the vertical axis when printed and I believe that's what caused the artifacts in the ring prints...

    Will post more when i get home...some photos I snapped in the office after this post.

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  5. 8177_deleted
    8177_deleted Member
    OK Finally home now.

    Regarding the Iris, I wasn't too disappointed with this as this was a test piece anyway. All the clearances were marginal with some down at 0.25mm but it all came out totally fused, even the larger clearances. Infact some of the bigger holes were totally deformed with excess material on it similar to the ring...
    Regarding the ring, boy am I disappointed. It appears to be a simple shape and the only deformations I was expecting were to be in the heart shaped cut-outs.

    As you can see from the last two photos, there appears to be excess material budging out at the 'top' of the print. It appears the ring is printed as displayed in the model preview [bah i even noted the z-axis is horizontal as a comment to myself when i uploaded the model].

    The band is mean to be uniform in circumference and also 'thickness' but it bulges out in both directions almost as if there wasn't sufficient support.

    :( Sad, writing this with my girlfriend next to me :(
  6. Fingers
    Fingers Member
    I'm tempted to get a reprint of one of the models I've had printed before, just to test if this extra material buildup is a new systemic problem.
  7. bvicarious
    bvicarious Member
    I can't imagine why so many models lately have these blobs of excess material :confused

    Could it possibly be the orientation of the model as printed? Machine in need of maintenence?
  8. pete
    pete Shapeways Employee CEO
    Hi guys,

    fair points! We will have a look!

  9. 8177_deleted
    8177_deleted Member

    Hi Pete, please do check. I just took some more photos and noticed even inconsistencies between the 10 rings :(

    Posted photos and a bit of a description here :- 2-and-heart-rings-fail/
    (Its so hard to post photos on this forum)

    On a side note. 'Rub 'N Buff' looks like it'll be interesting for the smoother materials such as the white/black details! Looks a bit odd on the WS&F as you can see in those photos but on the black detail its quite good...
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  10. 8177_deleted
    8177_deleted Member
    Thank you Joris for offering to reprint the rings, very much appreciated.

    Could you keep us up to date on any findings regarding the recent spate of printing issues with WS&F?

    Might do a transparent detail while i'm waiting for everything :)
  11. robert
    robert Member
    Hi all,

    Just wanted to let you all know we found the problem. It was a quality problem with the print material.

    Sorry for the inconvenience!

    Best regards,

  12. 8177_deleted
    8177_deleted Member
    Thanks for finding out the problem so quickly Robert. Since my order (100582) was to test the capabilities of the WS&F material and this was a problem with the print material, would shapeways be kind enough to reprint it?

    PS : To Joris - Did something change on the cookies? I can't seem to use the forums on firefox... :neutral:
    PPS : Got it working now... but the forums/webpage seems a bit odd in Firefox (Ubuntu 8.10, FF 3.0.5).
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  13. robert
    robert Member
    I understand. Yes we will do a reprint for you.

    Best regards,

  14. 8177_deleted
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  15. 8177_deleted
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    The reprints have arrived, they should have arrived earlier but the office was shut down so delivery couldn't be made.

    Photos here :- -arrived-looks-great/

    The 0.35mm clearance I used doesn't appear adequate for the iris in most places though in some places it appeared to have worked... I'll try pick at it with a needle to see if I can make the mechanism move :)

    The rings came out in great detail though the printing 'layers' are still visible if you look closely enough. I'm going to order some more with a different orientation on the axes...

    Thank you shapeways ;) It came out great this time.