SRZDesign@astrism Thanks. I have a full set on my wall and I've been using them for over a year now, very useful. I would like to make the product longer to cover the batter more, but I made these originally with just enough material that price wouldn't be totally out of hand. I just noticed that the prices here dropped so I may upload some update version of these. I have not tried brass or ceramic version.. I will look into it and see if it's possible. Thanks for your interest. I will msg you with any update.