{"id":272,"date":"2009-08-02T13:06:00","date_gmt":"2009-08-02T13:06:00","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.shapeways.com\/blog\/archives\/272-3d-printing-with-dna-community-member-interviews-bjorn-hogberg.html"},"modified":"2014-07-03T16:52:35","modified_gmt":"2014-07-03T16:52:35","slug":"3d-printing-with-dna-community-member-interviews-bjorn-hogberg","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.shapeways.com\/blog\/3d-printing-with-dna-community-member-interviews-bjorn-hogberg","title":{"rendered":"3D printing with DNA, Community Member interviews, Bjorn Hogberg"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><!-- s9ymdb:662 --><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" height=\"442\" width=\"600\" style=\"border: 0px none ; padding-left: 5px; padding-right: 5px;\" src=\"https:\/\/www.shapeways.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2009\/08\/bjornhogberg2.jpg\"><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.shapeways.com\/mydesign?user_id=24182\"><\/a><\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.shapeways.com\/mydesign?user_id=24182\">Bjorn Hogberg<\/a>, Phd is a research fellow at the Shih Lab, Dana-Farber Cancer Institute Department of Cancer Biology at Harvard Medical School. He is also a Shapeways Community member. I was intrigued when I saw his post on our &#8220;<a href=\"https:\/\/www.shapeways.com\/forum\/index.php?t=msg&amp;th=1182&amp;start=0&amp;S=fb70c88674ab3d31a7b2111bccec069c\">it arrived&#8221; forum mentioning his DNA slotted cross<\/a>. The <a href=\"https:\/\/www.shapeways.com\/model\/39122\/3d_dna_origami_slotted_cross.html\">&#8220;DNA origami&#8221;<\/a> model that he had printed with us looked nice enough and referenced an article in Nature. <\/p>\n<p><!-- s9ymdb:664 --><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" height=\"480\" width=\"640\" src=\"https:\/\/www.shapeways.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2009\/08\/DNAorigami3Dprint3.jpg\" style=\"border: 0px none ; padding-left: 5px; padding-right: 5px;\"><\/p>\n<p>I checked out <a href=\"http:\/\/www.bjornhogberg.org\/home\">his website<\/a> and asked Bjorn what it all meant, and he completely blew my mind. Seriously and without hyperbole. Bjorn and his fellow researchers are currently working on 3D printing with DNA. They are attempting to let DNA self-assemble using a technique called DNA origami. They hope to use this technique to make drug delivery systems &amp; molecular machines. <\/p>\n<p><i>Joris: What exactly is &#8220;building with DNA?&#8221; <\/i><\/p>\n<p>Bjorn: Well, DNA in our cells is used mostly as an information storage device.<br \/>\nAlmost 30 years ago Ned Seeman at NYU came up with the idea to use DNA<br \/>\nas a building material. Today, DNA nanotechnology is all about just<br \/>\nthat. Ignoring the biological function of DNA and just treating it as<br \/>\nmolecular putty.<\/p>\n<p><i>How can something self-assemble?<\/i><\/p>\n<p>This is where DNA excels compared to many other molecules. Im sure<br \/>\nyou have heard about the A,C,G and T bases that every DNA chain is<br \/>\nbuilt up of. In a DNA double helix A pairs with T and G pairs with C so<br \/>\nif you mix for example a AAAA molecule with a TTTT molecule they will<br \/>\nfind&nbsp;each-other&nbsp;in the solution and self assemble to form a double<br \/>\nhelix.&nbsp;<\/p>\n<div><\/div>\n<div>A few years ago, Paul Rothemund at<br \/>\nCaltech, discovered that if you mix a long DNA molecule with some<br \/>\n200&nbsp;cleverly&nbsp;designed short DNA molecules, these short DNA molecules<br \/>\ncan attach to the long molecule in such a way that they fold the long<br \/>\nmolecule to whatever shape you want. Among a bunch of other designs, he<br \/>\nself-assembled a nano smiley that has become quite famous. The<br \/>\ntechnology developed in our lab is an extension of this technique that<br \/>\nallows us to self-assemble complex three dimensional shapes.<\/div>\n<div><\/div>\n<div><i><\/i><\/div>\n<div><\/div>\n<div><i><\/i><\/div>\n<div><\/div>\n<div><i><\/i><\/div>\n<div><\/div>\n<div><\/div>\n<div><i><br \/>What shapes are you able to make?<\/i><\/div>\n<div><\/div>\n<div><\/div>\n<div>The shapes we can make are limited in size by the DNA molecules we use.<br \/>\nToday most object we make are around 40-50 nm long in all dimensions.<br \/>\nThe &#8220;voxels&#8221; we use are basically small chunks of DNA double helices<br \/>\nabout 6x2x2 nm big so the structures are also quite &#8220;pixelated&#8221;. <a href=\"http:\/\/www.bjornhogberg.org\/douglas2009dl.pdf\">This<br \/>\npaper contains<\/a> a small gallery of the shapes we are able to make,<br \/>\nsome structures with curvature has also been made by Hendrik Dietz,<br \/>\nanother post doc in our lab. They have not been published yet but <a href=\"http:\/\/bionano.physik.tu-muenchen.de\/\">his<br \/>\nwebpage<\/a> contains a preview of those curved things.<\/div>\n<div><\/div>\n<div><\/div>\n<div><i><\/i><\/div>\n<div><\/div>\n<div><i><\/i><\/div>\n<div><\/div>\n<div><\/div>\n<div><i><br \/>What are these structures useful for now?<\/i><\/div>\n<div><\/div>\n<div><\/div>\n<div><\/div>\n<div>Now, there is basically only one &#8216;useful&#8217; application and that is to<br \/>\nmake small stiff rods of DNA that provides a way to determine the<br \/>\nstructure of membrane proteins by nuclear magnetic resonance. The<br \/>\nstructure of this particular class of proteins is notoriously difficult<br \/>\nto solve so the technology fills an important gap.<\/div>\n<div><\/div>\n<div><\/div>\n<div><i><\/i><\/div>\n<div><\/div>\n<div><i><\/i><\/div>\n<div><\/div>\n<div><\/div>\n<div><i><br \/>What could they be used for in the future?<\/i><\/p>\n<div><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div><\/div>\n<div>3D<br \/>\nprinting at the nanoscale for hobbyists (although you would need a<br \/>\npretty expensive electron microscope to actually see what you built).<br \/>\nRational design of molecular machines that could be used for example as<br \/>\nsmart drug delivery vehicles. Circuit construction for nanoelectronics.<\/div>\n<div><\/div>\n<div><i><\/i><\/div>\n<div><\/div>\n<div><i><\/i><\/div>\n<div><\/div>\n<div><\/div>\n<div><i><br \/>Is this really 3D printing with DNA?<\/i><\/p>\n<div><\/div>\n<div><\/div>\n<div><\/div>\n<div>Yes<br \/>\nI think it is. You could argue that anything that self-assembles isn&#8217;t<br \/>\nreally printing because there is no machine that is doing the actual<br \/>\nprinting, its sort of a 3D powder printer in which the powder just<br \/>\nsticks itself together in the way you want when you shake it in a test tube.<br \/>&nbsp;<\/div>\n<div><\/div>\n<div><i><\/i><\/div>\n<div><\/div>\n<div><i><\/i><\/div>\n<div><\/div>\n<div><\/div>\n<div><i>In the Nature piece you say:&#8221;We anticipate that our strategy for self-assembling custom three-dimensional shapes will provide a general route to the manufacture of sophisticated devices bearing features on the nanometre scale.&#8221; What do you mean by devices?<\/i><\/p>\n<p>In that case we are talking about molecular machines. Our body is filled with wonderful little molecular nanomachines called proteins. They are very good at what they do but we basically have no idea how to re-design them to do something else. DNA nanotechnology provides us with the means to rationally design new molecular machines.&nbsp; <\/p>\n<p><i>What is a molecular machine and how could it be used?<\/i><\/p>\n<p>For example the ribosome, it reads the sequence of a gene, and produces a protein according to the sequence it gets. This little machine that exist in many copies in every cell on the planet is an excellent&nbsp; example of a molecular machine. It took some billion years to evolve by evolution. In the future, we might be able to build our own molecular machines. <\/p>\n<p><i>Will these things have applications in biotech, medicine, beyond?<\/i><\/p>\n<p>First I think we will see applications in biotech and medicine. Molecular machines that we might produce with DNA include a drug delivery vehicle, it could for example be programmed to release chemotherapeutic drugs only when it enters cells of a growing tumor. On a longer time frame, I personally believe that building schemes such as this will be used to build circuits for nanoscale molecular electronics and quantum computers. <\/p>\n<p><i><\/i><\/div>\n<div><!-- s9ymdb:663 --><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" height=\"480\" width=\"640\" src=\"https:\/\/www.shapeways.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2009\/08\/DNAorigami3Dprint22.jpg\" style=\"border: 0px none ; padding-left: 5px; padding-right: 5px;\"><\/div>\n<div><i><\/i><\/div>\n<div><\/div>\n<div><i>Talk to us about your <a href=\"https:\/\/www.shapeways.com\/model\/39122\/3d_dna_origami_slotted_cross.html\">DNA Origami Slotted Cross<\/a> model:<\/i><\/p>\n<p>This model I designed to use at presentations when I describe my cross design. Its basically a 3D schematic that in a stylized way shows how the long DNA chain winds its way through the entire design. I also thought it would be cool to have a macroscale version of the cross design, a 2 million times enlarged version.<\/p><\/div>\n<div><\/div>\n<div><!-- s9ymdb:665 --><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" height=\"480\" width=\"597\" style=\"border: 0px none ; padding-left: 5px; padding-right: 5px;\" src=\"https:\/\/www.shapeways.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2009\/08\/DNAorigami2.jpg\"><\/p>\n<p><i>Why did you print it with us?<\/i> <\/p>\n<p>I&#8217;ve been interested in 3D printing for more than 2 years. I wanted to build myself a CandyFab (http:\/\/www.candyfab.org\/), but the move to a smaller apartment in Boston with a new job as a post-doc slowed those plans down. When I fund your site I though &#8220;This is exactly what I have been looking for&#8221;. The fact that you upload your file and immediately get a yes or now for printable along with a price, thats almost like having your own 3D printer. <\/p>\n<p><i>What is caDNAno?<\/i><\/p>\n<p>When I first came to <a href=\"http:\/\/research2.dfci.harvard.edu\/shih\/SHIH_LAB\/Home.html\">this lab<\/a> we all designed our structures by drawing a large schematic in Adobe Illustrator, then manually transferring all the coordinates to a custom python script that would calculate the DNA sequences we needed to order. My cross design probably took like 3 weeks to design if you include the rigorous&nbsp; error checking we all had to do on our designs. It was a pretty error prone and time-consuming process to design a new shape. Shawn Douglas in our lab wanted a better way to design stuff so he wrote <a href=\"http:\/\/www.cadnano.org\/\">caDNAno<\/a>, now using his software the design process is much less painful and the probability of making small errors is decreased. Its a great step forward in spreading the use of this technology.<\/p>\n<p><i>In the Nature article you guys say that &#8220;we seek to demonstrate actuation potential and mechanical controllability of prestressed DNA tensegrities, to create DNA-protein chimeras that integrate defined 3D DNA nanostructures into natural extracellular matrices, and to use these artificial matrices to control mammalian cell behavior and multicellular organization by mechanically actuating physical changes in the internal DNA nanostructures.&#8221; This to me reads very sci fi. Does it mean that you will &#8216;print&#8217; a structure that will make changes in the body?<\/i><\/p>\n<p>Yes, that project has an ambitious goal and it is not clear that this is exactly how it will work, but in principle it should be possible to make a DNA nanostructure that react to a chemical signal in the cells and in turn make its own changes to the cell. In fact this is already how cells work, what we could contribute is a way to make it easier to &#8216;re-program&#8217; certain cell functions. 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