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  <title>Walls too thin?</title>
  <link>http://www.shapeways.com/forum/index.php?t=rview&amp;goto=6229&amp;th=1317#msg_6229</link>
  <description><![CDATA[Hi there,<br />
<br />
I'm still trying to create this double DIN adapter. Since it is much too expensive I'm trying to make it hollow. A file says a thousand words.<br />
<br />
I get the following error message:<br />
<br />
<table border="0" align="center" width="90%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td class="SmallText"><b>Quote&#58;</b></td></tr><tr><td class="quote"><br /><br />
We could not determine the size and/or volume of your model due to an invalid model structure. Please investigate the problem and try again. <br />
<br /></td></tr></table><br />
<br />
I guess the walls are too thin. But my software says they are more than 2mm everywhere. I'd absolutely appreciate it if someone could investigate this issue... again.<br />
<br />
Thanks!<br />
<br />
Hendrik]]></description>
  <dc:subject></dc:subject>
  <dc:creator>SeveQ</dc:creator>
  <dc:date>2009-09-02T11:19:23-00:00</dc:date>
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  <title>Re: Walls too thin?</title>
  <link>http://www.shapeways.com/forum/index.php?t=rview&amp;goto=6230&amp;th=1317#msg_6230</link>
  <description><![CDATA[I got that error when I exported a stl in inches and in an attempt of being lazy and just shrinking the file, I selected mm on shapeways. What software are you using?]]></description>
  <dc:subject></dc:subject>
  <dc:creator>Youknowwho4eva</dc:creator>
  <dc:date>2009-09-02T12:31:17-00:00</dc:date>
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  <title>Re: Walls too thin?</title>
  <link>http://www.shapeways.com/forum/index.php?t=rview&amp;goto=6231&amp;th=1317#msg_6231</link>
  <description><![CDATA[I use Cinema4D R11 in combination with MeshLab to check for holes and invert face normals. C4D seems to have a bug in its STL export plugin. It always exports STL with inverted normals. But that's not the problem. If it had been, Shapeways would have sent me another message. <br />
<br />
An upload in WRL format by the way results in the same message. I haven't tried any other format so far.<br />
<br />
In C4D my default unit is millimeter, so I think I have to choose the same unit in the Shapeways upload dialog. I don't want to get an object that is 25.4 times the size that it's actually supposed to have. <img src="http://www.shapeways.com/forum/images/smiley_icons/icon_smile.gif" border=0 alt="Smile"><br />
<br />
]]></description>
  <dc:subject></dc:subject>
  <dc:creator>SeveQ</dc:creator>
  <dc:date>2009-09-02T12:40:21-00:00</dc:date>
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  <title>Re: Walls too thin?</title>
  <link>http://www.shapeways.com/forum/index.php?t=rview&amp;goto=6232&amp;th=1317#msg_6232</link>
  <description><![CDATA[Try it just to see if it works, if it does make it too big just delete it. Then you'll know it is too small]]></description>
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  <dc:creator>Youknowwho4eva</dc:creator>
  <dc:date>2009-09-02T14:19:08-00:00</dc:date>
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  <title>Re: Walls too thin?</title>
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  <description><![CDATA[Here's the problem bud. Your bottom plane is just a face over the hollow sections.<br />
<br />
Just so you know, your hollow section is going to be full of build powder with no way to get it out unless you drill a hole into it.<br />
<br />
<img src="index.php?t=getfile&amp;id=1229&amp;private=0" border=0 alt="index.php?t=getfile&amp;id=1229&amp;private=0">]]></description>
  <dc:subject></dc:subject>
  <dc:creator>crsdfr</dc:creator>
  <dc:date>2009-09-03T01:10:35-00:00</dc:date>
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  <title>Re: Walls too thin?</title>
  <link>http://www.shapeways.com/forum/index.php?t=rview&amp;goto=6252&amp;th=1317#msg_6252</link>
  <description><![CDATA[Err, I'm afraid I haven't got it, yet. <br />
<br />
Please have a look at the picture I have attached. As you can see the holes in the bottom are open. I've also checked the inside of the holes. There is no face covering the holes.]]></description>
  <dc:subject></dc:subject>
  <dc:creator>SeveQ</dc:creator>
  <dc:date>2009-09-03T12:41:25-00:00</dc:date>
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  <title>Re: Walls too thin?</title>
  <link>http://www.shapeways.com/forum/index.php?t=rview&amp;goto=6254&amp;th=1317#msg_6254</link>
  <description><![CDATA[Here is another picture I've just created with MiniMagics (thanks to Shapeways for this advice). Also, no face covering the holes in the bottom of the object. ]]></description>
  <dc:subject></dc:subject>
  <dc:creator>SeveQ</dc:creator>
  <dc:date>2009-09-03T13:32:46-00:00</dc:date>
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  <title>Re: Walls too thin?</title>
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  <description><![CDATA[Hi SeveQ,<br />
<br />
I just uploaded your STL file with size unit mm and everything went fine. I also manually checked the model and it's all perfectly manifold, normals oriented fine etc.<br />
<br />
So I'm not sure what the problem is?<br />
<br />
Cheers,<br />
<br />
Bart]]></description>
  <dc:subject></dc:subject>
  <dc:creator>bartv</dc:creator>
  <dc:date>2009-09-06T13:03:37-00:00</dc:date>
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  <title>Re: Walls too thin?</title>
  <link>http://www.shapeways.com/forum/index.php?t=rview&amp;goto=6328&amp;th=1317#msg_6328</link>
  <description><![CDATA[Eh, what? Have you Shapeways people changed something to the checking algorithms? Now it works and I definitely haven't changed anything to the object, just uploaded the same file again. *confused*  <img src="http://www.shapeways.com/forum/images/smiley_icons/icon_eek.gif" border=0 alt="Shocked"> <br />
<br />
]]></description>
  <dc:subject></dc:subject>
  <dc:creator>SeveQ</dc:creator>
  <dc:date>2009-09-06T14:39:35-00:00</dc:date>
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  <title>Re: Walls too thin?</title>
  <link>http://www.shapeways.com/forum/index.php?t=rview&amp;goto=6364&amp;th=1317#msg_6364</link>
  <description><![CDATA[I checked and I don't believe we did an update after you posted your message. Not sure what caused this..<br />
<br />
Cheers,<br />
<br />
Bart]]></description>
  <dc:subject></dc:subject>
  <dc:creator>bartv</dc:creator>
  <dc:date>2009-09-08T18:18:16-00:00</dc:date>
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  <title>Re: Walls too thin?</title>
  <link>http://www.shapeways.com/forum/index.php?t=rview&amp;goto=6366&amp;th=1317#msg_6366</link>
  <description><![CDATA[Huh! Weird...  <img src="http://www.shapeways.com/forum/images/smiley_icons/icon_confused.gif" border=0 alt="Confused"> <br />
<br />
Well then, I'd say, consider this issue solved. Thanks for your help though.]]></description>
  <dc:subject></dc:subject>
  <dc:creator>SeveQ</dc:creator>
  <dc:date>2009-09-08T18:30:09-00:00</dc:date>
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