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Forum: It arrived!
 Topic: Beautiful Silver Cufflinks
Re: Beautiful Silver Cufflinks [message #101571 is a reply to message #101409 ] Wed, 22 October 2014 06:40 UTC
avatar IanSutton  is currently offline IanSutton
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Thanks Rob,

Finally someone who likes my "hilarious" HTML joke ;-)
"<body>" tags that go either side of your actual body.

because who doesn't want their shirt to be w3c compliant...
Forum: General Discussion
 Topic: 3D Viewer
Re: 3D Viewer [message #101569 is a reply to message #101567 ] Wed, 22 October 2014 00:58 UTC
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I'm using Mozilla Firefox
Re: 3D Viewer [message #101572 is a reply to message #101569 ] Wed, 22 October 2014 06:49 UTC
avatar mkroeker  is currently offline mkroeker
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Could be that your graphics card or its driver is not recognized as being capable. Enter about:config in the url field to access the detailed settings menu, enter "webgl" in the search box on the settings page to limit the number of configuration entries shown. Then see if "webgl.disabled" is listed as "true" - if it is, right-click on the line and choose "toggle" from the context menu that appears. (It may also be necessary to toggle the entry for webgl.force_enabled)
Forum: Official Announcements
 Topic: Repricing Strong & Flexible Plastic and Steel
Re: Repricing Strong & Flexible Plastic and Steel [message #101568 is a reply to message #99524 ] Wed, 22 October 2014 00:40 UTC
avatar MrNib  is currently offline MrNib
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Here's a variation on the previous example. This time the wall thickness of the cylinder is not held constant. In this case the cylinder is simply scaled up in both the x and y dimensions, starting from a cylinder with an outside diameter of 10mm and a 1mm thick wall. The last cylinder has an OD of 100mm and a wall thickness of 10mm. This keeps the density calculation at a constant value of about 28.5%, so the old price curve does not reflect the old price penalty for density falling below 10% as in the last example.

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I plan on doing a couple other examples, probably including a cup shaped configuration, because that's the type of stuff I've designed and am curious about. BTW, does anyone remember where the volume discount used to kick in for WSF?

Re: Repricing Strong & Flexible Plastic and Steel [message #101570 is a reply to message #101568 ] Wed, 22 October 2014 01:17 UTC
avatar stannum  is currently offline stannum
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The first 20 cm3 were full price, the rest half price if density was 10% or more. Density computed from oriented bounds vs material used.
Re: Repricing Strong & Flexible Plastic and Steel [message #101573 is a reply to message #99524 ] Wed, 22 October 2014 07:35 UTC
avatar MonikaWest  is currently offline MonikaWest
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I know I haven't been on here long, I don't sell my models in a shop. But the price jump is unbelievable..
It's hurting more people then it is helping...

I sculpt and paint model horses, I wanted to do something different for our hobby and do 3D sculpting. Which I was able to print one.
I print only in strong flexible white plastic.

I paid $165 originally, which is fine, I thought that was a good price to begin with. (He's hollowed)
When I received the email, I clicked on the link that showed the new prices and was pleasantly surprised that his price dropped to $139. I just checked earlier today and his price jumped to $298!!! WTF??

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So what I got with this new pricing so far is that, hollowed model (less plastic used) goes up dramatically in price while solid plastic models (uses a LOT more plastic) decreases??


I'm extremely upset about this..
There really is no way for me to make this any cheaper..

Re: Repricing Strong & Flexible Plastic and Steel [message #101574 is a reply to message #99524 ] Wed, 22 October 2014 08:33 UTC
avatar draw is currently online draw
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A solid horse would cost more than a hollow one of the same size.

For WSF:
$1.50/part
$0.28/material cm3
$0.21/machine cm3 ====> $263.84

With a molecule of plastic thickness to achieve zero material cost the total cost would still be over $264 because your machine space is so large. Machine space won't change without creative alterations.

Your options seem limited to cutting your horse into pieces to reduce machine space and gluing or snapping it back together. Or opening up the belly underside with a 4 cm hole (if the body is large enough) to provide access to internal space for other people's models, Or shrinking your horse. If you're lucky scaling the horse to be larger such that a belly hole and use of internal body cavity space becomes practical could also result in a price drop.

As for why prices changed some models were initially calculating artificially low prices for the first few days.

I have the same problem with an 80mm diameter round ornament that went up to $71. If I cut a 40mm hole in the bottom the price drops to around $20. What I will try to do is to print the missing part inside the ornament so it can't fall out but can be pulled into place and attached with some dabs of glue to recover the full sphere. Maybe you could do something like that with your horse.
Re: Repricing Strong & Flexible Plastic and Steel [message #101575 is a reply to message #101574 ] Wed, 22 October 2014 08:42 UTC
avatar HOLDEN8702 is currently online HOLDEN8702
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draw wrote on Wed, 22 October 2014 08:33

.......

Your options seem limited to cutting your horse into pieces to reduce machine space and gluing or snapping it back together. Or opening up the belly underside with a 4 cm hole (if the body is large enough) to provide access to internal space for other people's models, Or shrinking your horse. If you're lucky scaling the horse to be larger such that a belly hole and use of internal body cavity space becomes practical could also result in a price drop. .....


... or trying another 3d printing services. Shapeways don't look after Designers, Designers don't like shapeways.

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