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 Topic: New Upload Process and SW Site
Re: New Upload Process and SW Site [message #120309 is a reply to message #120282 ] Fri, 31 July 2015 06:05 UTC
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Having to switch between the 3 tabs is one.
In order to upload, type description and set price.
I could live with 2 tabs (upload&description and Price), a single page to do everything would be ideal.

Setting price is also not very fluid, having to go to different materials to set each markeups, although I did feel having a full list of material was a little much but it was faster than the current method.
Having an option to input total price or markup would also help, since I prefer the later, it'll save me time every time I update the models.


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 Topic: Assembling models-Sticking models together
Re: Assembling models-Sticking models together [message #120320 is a reply to message #120180 ] Fri, 31 July 2015 10:49 UTC
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I would love to see the results if you would be willing to share them. For science!
 Topic: Is Elasto Plastic a durable material for outdoors use?
Re: Is Elasto Plastic a durable material for outdoors use? [message #120322 is a reply to message #119450 ] Fri, 31 July 2015 10:53 UTC
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Also extended UV (sunlight) exposure might have a negative effect. Painting might solve this though, given you use the right kind of paint.
 Topic: Choose your orientation
Re: Choose your orientation [message #120314 is a reply to message #120220 ] Fri, 31 July 2015 09:22 UTC
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Hello,

that would be a great idea to solve several issues on my FUD models or at least, will make some more model train stuff possible, which has surface issues today.

A big and fat YES from my side.

Thanks, Gerd
Re: Choose your orientation [message #120316 is a reply to message #120220 ] Fri, 31 July 2015 09:44 UTC
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PenistoneRailwayWorks wrote on Thu, 30 July 2015 04:58

I'm guessing from your points that you haven't ordered much in FUD/FXD lately. Most of the prints show very little stepping now, even on curved surfaces. A cube, for instance, would in my experience be pretty much perfect straight from the printer as it would require no support wax. It's this wax that ruins a surface not the stepping lines and so orientation is vital to a good print.


That's not what I have found. I have three FXD models here, done at different time, all of them have fine vertical lines on two of the side faces and fine horizontal lines on the other two. The problem for me is that not only do all the competing modelling techniques have no stepping or surface artefacts, but they are more robust and much cheaper.

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Shot blasting FUD/FXD would likely be an even worse solution as it would just remove small details.


Don't knock it until you've tried it.

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Re: Choose your orientation [message #120317 is a reply to message #116642 ] Fri, 31 July 2015 09:48 UTC
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I can only second Mark's opinion.
Although I have only just recieved my first printed model, I could see ther stepping lines, and although thisd model was acceptable to me I could see that a different orientation might improve the model, it could also destroy any detail I have put into it.
So orientation is an option I would very much like to have if it could improve the quality, and above all, the constant quality of the models.
Even if I have designed them at fisrt for myself, there seems to be an interest, and if I am going to sell them I think the quality should be constant, not a shot in the dark, hoping the model is as good as the prints I received.

This is also one of the resons I am myself reluctant to buy from other designers, as some of the designs can be ruined if they have the wrong orientation. Having a choice would make the step easier, as the risk of receiving a worthless print is reduced.

So in short: YES, I would like to have the option, even if this meant the model wpould be a bit more expensive. Then the customer can decide if he wants to pay a bit more for an better model, or take the chance and pay less with the risk of ending up with a model with severe stepping line problems.
Re: Choose your orientation [message #120318 is a reply to message #120316 ] Fri, 31 July 2015 09:50 UTC
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BillBedford wrote on Fri, 31 July 2015 09:44

PenistoneRailwayWorks wrote on Thu, 30 July 2015 04:58

I'm guessing from your points that you haven't ordered much in FUD/FXD lately. Most of the prints show very little stepping now, even on curved surfaces. A cube, for instance, would in my experience be pretty much perfect straight from the printer as it would require no support wax. It's this wax that ruins a surface not the stepping lines and so orientation is vital to a good print.
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That's not what I have found. I have three FXD models here, done at different time, all of them have fine vertical lines on two of the side faces and fine horizontal lines on the other two. The problem for me is that not only do all the competing modelling techniques have no stepping or surface artefacts, but they are more robust and much cheaper.


Shot blasting FUD/FXD would likely be an even worse solution as it would just remove small details.


Don't knock it until you've tried it.


Do you have any example photos of before/after I could see? I'm happy to be proved wrong but given the tiny details I routinely add to FUD models (0.2mm high bolts for example) I can't imagine shot blasting would improve my models but if it did then it would have my vote,

Mark
Re: Choose your orientation [message #120321 is a reply to message #120318 ] Fri, 31 July 2015 10:53 UTC
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I haven't shot blasted a model, but I did an experiment on an FUD shell with soda blasting. Soda blasting should yield similar, but milder, results.

Never again! All it did was deepen the striations in the print- it did nothing to improve things, it made them worse. I can't imagine what shot blasting would do.

Of course, with the improved FUD quality and exceptional FXD quality, there is far less stair-stepping. With FXD, I haven't needed to do any sanding yet.

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Re: Choose your orientation [message #120323 is a reply to message #120321 ] Fri, 31 July 2015 11:24 UTC
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Yes, I would love to be able to control the orientation of the print in FUD and FXD. To basically minimize the effect of stepping. As many who have answered here, I make model trains and these models tend to have quite a few curved surfaces and/ or cylindrical shapes. It is possible to adjust or minimize the stepping effect changing the print orientation.
Re: Choose your orientation [message #120325 is a reply to message #120189 ] Fri, 31 July 2015 11:57 UTC
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PenistoneRailwayWorks wrote on Wed, 29 July 2015 17:28

Being able to choose the print orientation is THE one feature that has been missing from shapeways as the orientation a model is printed in, especially when using FUD, is critical and seriously affects the quality of the final model.


I have the exact same experience as Mark.

In a recent order of models, 4 of 6 identical items were printed in a way that filled them with support wax totally obliterating the detail.
I complained and got them re-printed, and all 6 were perfect.

This has happened to me before, but it's not been bad enough to complain, but in a multiple order of the same item I often find items printed in different orientations.

When it causes customer complaints and re-work, this has got to be worth it!

I have some models that I daren't release without assurance on print direction as I don't want to subject my customers to the same problems - I've been investigating using the 3D prints as masters for a resin moulding but this is adding extra effort and complication to me - and as a hobby, this begins to take up too much time for it to be viable.

I should add that I pretty much exclusively print in FUD.
Re: Choose your orientation [message #120326 is a reply to message #116896 ] Fri, 31 July 2015 12:16 UTC
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joabaldwin wrote on Mon, 08 June 2015 15:58

I would love to have this option in FCS, WSF and steel. I think it's extremely important to keep product quality consistent. If I take a pic of a product and the customer receives something that looks different, it's not good.

It's also an aesthetic choice. In WSF sometimes the print lines create an effect that can either be bad, or be used in your favor.

I would like to have this option, but I would also like it to be an opt-in per model, so I don't have to manually select orientation for models in which it is not important at all. If you don't manually select an orientation, it does whatever it normally does.


Agree with Joaquin. I think there are already good answers in the thread about practicalities, but wanted to register my interest too!
 Topic: Am I the only one who has extreme level of issues in pricing on Shapeways?
Am I the only one who has extreme level of issues in pricing on Shapeways? [message #120327] Fri, 31 July 2015 12:42 UTC
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Hi,

I see very strange things last time. Here some examples:

1. https://www.shapeways.com/forum/index.php?t=msg&th=28210 &start=0& Someone removed my markup (marked as null) for a lot of positions, video here https://youtu.be/tgfZNpRsqxk ;

2. https://www.shapeways.com/forum/index.php?t=msg&th=28240 &start=0& SW restrict my markup for any changes for items in shop, video here http://youtu.be/8fJByaD1Nx4 ;

3. https://www.shapeways.com/forum/index.php?t=msg&th=28209 &start=0& csv-wizard removes already defined markup for some items and materials, video also https://youtu.be/tgfZNpRsqxk ;

4. https://www.shapeways.com/forum/index.php?t=msg&th=25964 &start=0& someone can order your items in not-for-sales materials with zero markup.

Now I tried to change my pricing according to updated politic globally (for all items in shop) and found additional issues. When I tried apply new markup via csv-wizard for next 20 models (about 1000 rows), I got "no changes here" message. My prices stay without changes. But when I repeat it for all 20 models (per one at once), I changed all prices successfully, but... several positions stay unchanged. As example, in all models I got 50 changes, but for several of it - 49 only. I cannot see which rows missed - now csv-wizard doesn't work again.

I don't like similar things because they are very similar to some internal machinations. I would like to read about investigate of these unanswered events.

Sincerely.
Re: Am I the only one who has extreme level of issues in pricing on Shapeways? [message #120328 is a reply to message #120327 ] Fri, 31 July 2015 13:17 UTC
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Here http://shpws.me/Gegg item and I cannot change markup for it via csv-wizard right now.
Re: Am I the only one who has extreme level of issues in pricing on Shapeways? [message #120342 is a reply to message #120328 ] Fri, 31 July 2015 15:29 UTC
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Video is here http://youtu.be/FBwSbgM3M48 I cannot add markup even for models not in shop.
 Topic: Case Studies: What are you most successful marketing stories for your products?
Case Studies: What are you most successful marketing stories for your products? [message #120361] Fri, 31 July 2015 16:39 UTC
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Hey Shapies!

We post a lot of info on our blog, tutorial pages, and skillshare with tips and tricks on how to promote, market and sell your products here on Shapeways.

I'd love to hear some of the stories directly from you guys about what has worked - or not worked! I think the more we can share our own experiences, the stronger we become in paving our way to success.

So here's some food for thought:

What have been your most successful stories when it comes to promoting your products?
Have you found any weird tricks to tapping into a niche market?
Have you ever posted something on a specific website (reddit, imgur, for example) and seen a sudden spike in sales?
Or, have you ever noticed a jump in orders and wonder "why are people paying attention?"

Really any story works here. Share away! :)



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 Topic: Show me your: Innovation prototypes!
Re: Show me your: Innovation prototypes! [message #120301 is a reply to message #120291 ] Fri, 31 July 2015 01:06 UTC
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I can't tell if it is support material jamming it or if I made a mistake somewhere and let two parts overlap.
I've searched it a number of times, and I've broken the physical print open.. the bicycle chain flexes properly (even though its only 1mm across!!!!!) and the big gears seem to be free to rotate.. there is still something that I'm missing.

As I said.. this "links box" is to animate a micro-scale train layout... on a model train layout... :)
You've seen many other scales here on Shapeways, 1:87, 1:160, etc.. this one would be 1:10560

Many discussions held between model railroaders is which Local Hobby Shop (LHS) they believe to be the best place to buy materials. Many LHS have model train displays within their shops. I thought.. why not put a LHS onto my layout.. with a working layout?

The desire is to make a moving version of this: (click to see the model in my shop)
https://images1.sw-cdn.net/model/picture/625x465_104677_959572_1436236121.jpg


Patience, Persistance, Politeness - the 3Ps will help us get us to Perfect Printed Products
Re: Show me your: Innovation prototypes! [message #120313 is a reply to message #120263 ] Fri, 31 July 2015 07:46 UTC
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I like my custom made propeller balancer.

Without SLS-printing it would be nearly impossible to make this axis.

http://shpws.me/CnGe


Useful things... by kaadesign
Re: Show me your: Innovation prototypes! [message #120334 is a reply to message #120313 ] Fri, 31 July 2015 14:46 UTC
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hey @kaadesigns

I dont know much about drones and balancers. can you shed a little light on what this does for your drone? what does it balance? Excuse my ignorance on the topic... but I am genuinely interested in knowing more!


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Re: Show me your: Innovation prototypes! [message #120374 is a reply to message #120263 ] Fri, 31 July 2015 19:47 UTC
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Somewhere in my prototype box I have sitting the cone part of a sand timer manufactured in FD and different end caps versions made it WSF. I should probably put it together, I guess. The FD wasn't really that clear and transparent, particularly after cleaning off all residues. Sand won't flow with oily or waxy residues. I can't remember if production in clear acrylic was rejected or if it was just more expensive than FD at the time. I know the acrylics can have lots of residue so I may never have tried it in the first place.

The switch to FUD/FXD really wasn't going to help the pricing so I figured I'd set it aside until a better/cheaper material rolls around somewhere. I wan't really planning on hitting the market competitively with sand timers because instead of a DIY $20 printed version it's more practical to get a comparable one at the mall for $1 that works extremely well.

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