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Bulk Edit Markup is Live [message #35398] Thu, 29 September 2011 14:23 UTC Go to next message
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Hey guys, the CSV tool is live. I'm posting this for Nancy, and have included a screen cap to help show everyone where everything is. We've worked hard, and we hope this helps!:

Hello all!

After another week of passionate and hard working dedication, the Dev Team is happy to release some amazing new features!

First, we have the long awaited Bulk Edit Markup by CSV (comma separated values) feature--look in the My Shop section. This allows you to download a CSV of models that are up for sale (either publically or privately for sale), you can import that file into your spreadsheet editor of choice, edit the markups in bulk and upload back to Shapeways. With a few Spreadsheet Formulas, you can do things like set all your margins to 10% and round up to the nearest $0.99. Depending on your Spreadsheet Wizardry, you can hack together a lot more complex markup structures.

One thing to note, if you are using Excel, save your files as "Windows Comma Separated (*.csv)" please.

Second, we are happy to announce a new top navigational bar and a new footer. In the upcoming months, the site will be improving rapidly with better usability features. We want to help drive more traffic to your shops and help your shoppers, your customers have a better experience of Shapeways. The new top navigational bar is simpler, cleaner and will create a better creating and shopping experience for all.

Last, in this release we have also released a bunch of bug fixes and site optimization to make the site load quicker.

Enjoy the new features!

Best,
Nancy




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Re: Bulk Edit Markup is Live [message #35399 is a reply to message #35398 ] Thu, 29 September 2011 15:04 UTC Go to previous messageGo to next message
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index.php?t=getfile&id=11202&private=0

also aparently added a tone of bugs to the forum


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Re: Bulk Edit Markup is Live [message #35400 is a reply to message #35399 ] Thu, 29 September 2011 15:05 UTC Go to previous messageGo to next message
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using firefix and windows 7

index.php?t=getfile&id=11203&private=0

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Re: Bulk Edit Markup is Live [message #35402 is a reply to message #35398 ] Thu, 29 September 2011 15:08 UTC Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Hmm everything looks ok so far on FF 7 for XP.


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Re: Bulk Edit Markup is Live [message #35404 is a reply to message #35402 ] Thu, 29 September 2011 15:13 UTC Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Problem fixed. Turns out system cashed old css and this caused conflicts as I was online as the updates were made.

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Re: Bulk Edit Markup is Live [message #35405 is a reply to message #35398 ] Thu, 29 September 2011 15:15 UTC Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Every once in a while the page looks awkward like yours, but mostly it looks ok.

I have started a feedback topic on the general site update here:

http://www.shapeways.com/forum/index.php?t=msg&th=6548&a mp;a mp;a mp;start=0&

Edit: No more BETA label Wink

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Re: Bulk Edit Markup is Live [message #35407 is a reply to message #35405 ] Thu, 29 September 2011 15:35 UTC Go to previous messageGo to next message
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The mist in my mind is starting to clear...
Would a php script make this csv thing easier?
Does Shapeways have anything in place that prevents a php script from pretending to be a browser for full on interactive (live) updating of the csv tool/file/thingy?
Just asking.

Re: Bulk Edit Markup is Live [message #35408 is a reply to message #35407 ] Thu, 29 September 2011 15:42 UTC Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Nope I have use curl commands to download pages off shapeways. Though I have yet to login this way.

However nice thing with CSV is it is really easy to make a php script that could read the csv file make the desired changes and return a new csv file. Saving all the trouble of parsing shapeways site.

Also people can write excel files you can cut and paste data into. This is the method I am using at present.


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Re: Bulk Edit Markup is Live [message #35452 is a reply to message #35398 ] Thu, 29 September 2011 18:57 UTC Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Important Update:


Hey guys, there's been a few bugs surfacing in the pricing calculation for the CSV markup tool. Because of our complicated pricing structure (minimum orders, start up fees, density discount, volume discounts, etc. etc.) the pricing calculator for the markup tool is running into some issues. We are trouble shooting this as I'm writing this, and I will update you intermittently on the issue.

Right now, the markup upload still works (when you upload $5 markup, you get $5 markup). The volume information is accurate for those who want to calculate pricing themselves. However, we are fixing this so you see accurate pricing--both for your current price and future price.

I apologize for the inconvenience. If you found any more issues, please feel free to email me at nancy@shapeways.com.

Thanks,
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Re: Bulk Edit Markup is Live [message #35473 is a reply to message #35452 ] Thu, 29 September 2011 20:16 UTC Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Also Important Update

The issues mentioned in the above posts are FIXED! If you see anymore weirdness, please let me know. The prices are giving the right numbers. Please note though, these prices do not include VAT/Sales Tax. Since your shoppers can come from anywhere in the world, we can't estimate what the VAT is.

Last, if this wasn't clear already. You can sort and filter out rows. So even if you downloaded 100 rows of data, if you only want to filter out all but 5 rows, and then sort them. That's totally fine. The spreadsheet will only update the rows you upload.

Thanks all!
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Re: Bulk Edit Markup is Live [message #35546 is a reply to message #35473 ] Fri, 30 September 2011 20:10 UTC Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Just tried uploading a file. Said my markup was $0 on everything even though that is not what was in my CSV. Think you need to check your program. Will send csv file to ann so you can check example.


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Re: Bulk Edit Markup is Live [message #35550 is a reply to message #35546 ] Fri, 30 September 2011 21:06 UTC Go to previous messageGo to next message
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... only if somebody runs in the same troubles.

When opening with Openoffice you have to take care on the right interpretation of "," and ".".
For me it leads to some values interpreted as datum.
(Changing "," to ";" and "." to "," leads to better results. Haven't checked if there is an easier way.

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Re: Bulk Edit Markup is Live [message #35554 is a reply to message #35550 ] Fri, 30 September 2011 21:28 UTC Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Being in France I have the same issue:
- I have to transform . into , and , into ; before applying my formulas
- I have to transform back , into . and ; into , before uploading the cvs
Sad


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Re: Bulk Edit Markup is Live [message #35579 is a reply to message #35452 ] Sat, 01 October 2011 10:22 UTC Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Titles with " characters in them need to be stored as "" (2 quote characters) in the csv file. Currently they somewhat break with the begin/end quote character.


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Re: Bulk Edit Markup is Live [message #35583 is a reply to message #35579 ] Sat, 01 October 2011 12:48 UTC Go to previous messageGo to next message
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found problem. If for some reason the dollar symbol is included in markup field the programers did not have enough forsite to check for this and remove. Instead it did show $0 and now shows error. Come on guys.


$string='$5.63';  //or for the french $string='5,63$';

$patterns = array();
$patterns[0] = '/\$/';
$patterns[1] = '/,/';
$replacements = array();
$replacements[2] = '';
$replacements[1] = '.';

echo preg_replace($patterns, $replacements, $string);

//result=5.63


not the cleverest way but even you should be able to understand how this works. Simple error checking does not mean detect if not number. It means check and fix common format types then check if not a number.


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Re: Bulk Edit Markup is Live [message #35616 is a reply to message #35583 ] Sat, 01 October 2011 17:20 UTC Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Dev team is fixing it. Thanks for the feedback
Re: Bulk Edit Markup is Live [message #35722 is a reply to message #35616 ] Sun, 02 October 2011 20:54 UTC Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Guys, quick update, we are releasing quite a few bugfixes in the next 2-3 hours. Will confirm after go-live.

Thanks for hanging in there.

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Re: Bulk Edit Markup is Live [message #35727 is a reply to message #35722 ] Sun, 02 October 2011 22:45 UTC Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Hope you are getting paid overtime for all this........


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Re: Bulk Edit Markup is Live [message #35728 is a reply to message #35727 ] Sun, 02 October 2011 22:59 UTC Go to previous messageGo to next message
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We just went live!

- CSV tool parsing errors resolved
- some facebook js errors fixed
- shopping cart caching issues with # of items fixed
- selected materials for co-creators do not save fixed
- Sales Tax info not showing up in the order confirmation page fixed
- Wrong base price pops up when I first check material as available fixed
- Co Creators do not show the right price on site -fixed

More bugs to be fixed early this week!

Pete

PS: Overtime? Nah - just some kudos hopefully!
Re: Bulk Edit Markup is Live [message #35737 is a reply to message #35728 ] Mon, 03 October 2011 03:31 UTC Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Have not checked yet. But nice to see that someone at shapeways is trying to fix bugs instead of making new ones.


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Re: Bulk Edit Markup is Live [message #35738 is a reply to message #35737 ] Mon, 03 October 2011 03:36 UTC Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Maybe I spoke to soon. Now the CSV does not work at all. I upload my file and then nothing. No error not a thing. Seems testing still is deemed not necessary. Please fix by saturday as I will need to upload a new CSV file then.


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Re: Bulk Edit Markup is Live [message #35755 is a reply to message #35738 ] Mon, 03 October 2011 06:05 UTC Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I have noticed on a few models that the Edit View tends to stay turned on when I try to turn Edit View off.

I wonder if there is some built-in error check that is finding a problem... but the error is not being reported? Such as a model that is larger than the print area or something?


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Re: Bulk Edit Markup is Live [message #35756 is a reply to message #35755 ] Mon, 03 October 2011 06:16 UTC Go to previous messageGo to next message
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stonysmith, does that happen with private and for sale models only (if so, the issue has been reported - item 1.3 here)
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stop4stuff wrote on Mon, 03 October 2011 06:16

stonysmith, does that happen with private and for sale models only (if so, the issue has been reported - item 1.3 here)


Whups.. my bad.. I had missed that forum thread entirely. Too many separate lists going on. Confused

Yes, the model it happened on was private and for sale.


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Re: Bulk Edit Markup is Live [message #35790 is a reply to message #35738 ] Mon, 03 October 2011 17:17 UTC Go to previous messageGo to next message
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mctrivia wrote on Mon, 03 October 2011 03:36

Maybe I spoke to soon. Now the CSV does not work at all. I upload my file and then nothing. No error not a thing. Seems testing still is deemed not necessary. Please fix by saturday as I will need to upload a new CSV file then.


Hey FYI - this is now fixed. Please sound off if you are still having trouble with the CSV tool.

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Re: Bulk Edit Markup is Live [message #35805 is a reply to message #35790 ] Mon, 03 October 2011 19:30 UTC Go to previous messageGo to next message
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just checked it works now, and the dollar sign is ignored like it should be. Now please no more new code on live site without testing it first.


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Re: Bulk Edit Markup is Live [message #35807 is a reply to message #35398 ] Mon, 03 October 2011 19:42 UTC Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Found a major bug in the CSV system. If a model is marked not for sale not shown it does not show up in the CSV file. This is a problem because I am not going to put the model available for sale until after I have added the markup but I can not add the markup because it does not show up in the CSV. A bit of a catch 22 at the moment making it impossible for me to add new models(without going through the painstaking approach of manually setting everything which is what CSV is suppose to eliviate. I got 32 models currently not for sale because I can not set the price. Please Fix.

Also would be really nice if I could set sale status and visibility at same time. What is the point of uploading the CSV then manually clicking on all 32 models to make for sale but hidden(which is my plan) when I should be able to just mark them as such on the CSV and do everything at once.

also for hidden objects can you provide the sales URL in the CSV. Would be nice to be able to get this off the CSV file since I soon plan to hide most of my models to eliviate the crowded status of my shop.

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Re: Bulk Edit Markup is Live [message #35810 is a reply to message #35807 ] Mon, 03 October 2011 20:01 UTC Go to previous messageGo to next message
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mctrivia wrote on Mon, 03 October 2011 19:42

If a model is marked not for sale not shown it does not show up in the CSV file.

I guess a workaround would be set this item as "for sale" "not shown": nobody can see it as long as you do not publicize the URL, and you can set up the markup before turning it to public.


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Re: Bulk Edit Markup is Live [message #35815 is a reply to message #35810 ] Mon, 03 October 2011 21:39 UTC Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Yes that is a work around but requires a lot of work: Current best work flow to upload a Ring design is as following:

1*) Upload all 32 sizes to shapeways VIA FTP and come back in an hour
2*) Log in to shapeways
3*) Goto http://www.shapeways.com/mydesigns?ug[page]=5#ug yes faster to type URL in
4 to 168) Open each model, click more, click for sale, click update, cut and paste address
169) Click on username -> Myshop
170*) Click on markup CSV
171*) Click on Download CSV
172*) Open CSV in excel
173*) Cut and paste cells into auto calculation work book
174*) Save back to CSV
175) Click Edit the CSV
176) Click Upload and Preview
177*) Select CSV File
178*) Upload File
179*) Verify CSV File Interpreted correctly
180*) Save CSV
181) Select shop inventory
182) Select product inventory manager(wait 10min to load)
183 to 439) Deselect all materials it is not available in
440) Save changes
441*) Click on username -> My Models
442*) Click to edit description
443*) Add description of ring with link to all hiden size fields
444*) Save

That is 444 steps(do you have shares in a mouse manufacturer?) When only the 16 marked with * should be needed. And I removed about 192 steps by writing an app to let me upload via FTP instead of using the on site upload system.

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Re: Bulk Edit Markup is Live [message #35817 is a reply to message #35815 ] Mon, 03 October 2011 22:14 UTC Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Hey mctrivia, I just wanted to let you know that at the moment, we've designed the CSV to have the current capabilities, and not to include the ones you've mentioned. We did this to make sure we could get the CSV out for the community as fast as possible, so it we're aware doesn't handle all needs in all cases.

We will be offering more of the tools you need in future releases though.


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getting to the minimum can wait. steps 4 to 168 should not be. just include the models that are not for sale yet will cut my work load by 33%. I should be able to set price by CSV before setting for sale.

Just realised that I can get rid of 181 to 440 myself by changing my upload script. So If you fix the lack of not yet for sale models and I alter my script I will be pretty happy

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Re: Bulk Edit Markup is Live [message #35929 is a reply to message #35821 ] Wed, 05 October 2011 13:58 UTC Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Seems CSV is broken again. I have been trying to upload a CSV file and it is not working properly. Some materials are not being updated, those that are, have the wrong resulting price.

I have not yet checked if you are giving me the wrong cost and neglecting to give me all materials and hence the missing and wrong or if reading wrong. Either way it is not right.


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just checked reported prices are wrong and since I use this to compute markups markups are wrong. Gives 4.44 for 0.65cc of WSF which at 1.5+1.4*0.65=2.41

Woops my bad that was white detailed which makes the price correct.

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all prices showing up correct now. So either there was a massive delay while the server had a heart attack and showed garbage data. Or someone fixed it.


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There is a delay in price updates when showing in search results.

On the product details page, price changes will show immediately.


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was using product inventory page to see pricing.


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Re: Bulk Edit Markup is Live [message #36207 is a reply to message #35398 ] Sat, 08 October 2011 16:30 UTC Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Due to current changes I would need also a bulk-edit for:

- descriptions
- available for sale
- display to the public

any considerations to offer that?

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woody64 wrote on Sat, 08 October 2011 16:30

Due to current changes I would need also a bulk-edit for:

- descriptions
- available for sale
- display to the public

any considerations to offer that?

woody64


also material available in, and show models not yet for sale.


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Quote:

- descriptions
- available for sale
- display to the public
- material available in


They've already clearly said that these are planned enhancements, just not "immediate"- the urgent need was to allow markup changes, and they did a good job of getting that facility in place within deadline.

Descriptions is pretty tricky.. a simple CSV file can get seriously messed up if someone tries to do complicated HTML as a description - a misplaced quote character or comma, and the whole file blows up.

Available Material is also somewhat complicated. What we desire is the ability to Add or Remove a material.. the current CSV thing can only CHANGE what is already there.

For my own vote, I'd want the ForSale/DisplayToPublic options added next (with all models included).

[Updated on: Sat, 08 October 2011 17:11 UTC]


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Re: Bulk Edit Markup is Live [message #36212 is a reply to message #36211 ] Sat, 08 October 2011 17:13 UTC Go to previous message
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available material is easy. you have a boolean for if it is visible or not. the tricky part is they split up per material and not per model. My sugestion is all visible states must match in a model or it ignores the field for that model. Also allow the option of setting material to 0 and ignoring markup so someone can upload a csv file that only changes the visible status.

As for description. Excel and most spread sheet programs auto handle quotes and commas. The big problem is shapeways currently does not handle these correctly.


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