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3D Max Shapeways Calculator v1.1 [message #3223] Wed, 04 March 2009 09:09 UTC Go to next message
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The purpose of this tool is to calculate the price of your object, in the same way the site does it for you, but without the hassle of uploading, waiting etc Smile
The interface, except volume/area calculation, is updated in real time.

Please be aware, that the calculation times grow exponentially with polygon count.
You can abort execution any time by pressing the ESC key.

Not sure which MAX versions work, just try it and let me know.
Please treat this code with respect. Suggestions and modification are welcome, but please keep the main repository here.
Questions, request, bugs etc are all very welcome in this topic or through Private Messaging.

Cheers,

Stijn

3D Max Shapeways Calculator v1.1!
New screenshot will follow later.


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This version got a major overhaul, please let me know if I broke something Wink

How to

  1. Start 3d Max
  2. Load your favorite object
  3. Goto menu : MAXScript->Run script...
  4. Find and open "ShapewaysCalculator.ms"
  5. Click "Calculate" !
  6. Play with all the options, try materials, markups, scaling etc
  7. Please give feedback here Nod

The floater interface should speak for itself, I tried to keep it as intuitive as possible, and in line with the Shapeways website.

Known Bugs and Limitations

  • It only works with single object meshes, not with groups, or multiple selected. Please use utilities -> collapse.
  • NO built-in meshmedic Wink So overlapping or non-manifold meshes might produce different values than shapeways.


V1.1 New features

  • Major update to config, incompatible with old version.
  • SO OLD CONFIG WILL BE OVERWRITTEN ON FIRST RUN
  • Layout changes/condensing
  • Added object density
  • Added bounding total
  • Added link to (selected) material page
  • Time to loose beta label Wink

TODO (maybe)

  • Export and Upload interface to Shapeways API (any help for this module?)
  • Save/sync some more settings to ini, not everything sticks yet.



Todone

  • Updateable configuration Beta8
  • Remember settings Beta8
  • Currency calculator/Pricing in Euros Beta5
  • Try to make it more compatible with older max versions Beta4
  • Unit flexibility - currently the script sets all units to mm where possible Beta5
  • Manifold check/STL/Other model checks Beta4
  • Add boundary checks for a given material Beta2


Beta11 New features

  • Crash fix

Beta10 New features

  • Docking now configurable via ini file (default=left) (Try the "EDIT" button under config to see ini)
  • Improved config handling, script will now create default config if none exists.
  • Updated ini file now part of script itself. Click restore once to update/restore your ini.
  • Added restore function for config (overwrites config with default)

Beta9 New features

  • Area calculation for Glazed Ceramics (still testing)
  • Density discount for WSF (still testing)
  • Unencrypted source Smile
  • Many bugs squashed

Beta8 New features

  • Material and other settings in ini/settings file !
  • All object values are now saved with the Max file !
  • Plenty of other stuff, nothing major
  • Dockable

Beta7 New features :

  • Updated dollar2euro
  • Added Stainless Steel
  • Added New WSF Pricing

Beta6 unpublished

Beta5 New features :

  • More compatible with other unit systems (no more forced mm units)
  • Speed and code optimizations
  • Euro selection
  • Showing of error-object optional and only on error
  • Inverted volume correction now optional

Beta4 New features :

  • Compatible with R8 and up (hopefully)
  • Crude manifold check (slow, but effective)
  • Status window
  • Lots of roll ups, to allow custom interface placement
  • Better object selection
  • Overall code refactoring

Beta3 unpublished

Beta2 New features :

  • Fix negative volume issues
  • Mass and center of mass (WSF only and not yet fixed for negatives)
  • Polygon count
  • Bounding box dimensions of object
  • Warning if previous exceeds material boundaries
  • New WSF price Smile

Beta 1 Features:

  • Volume in CC
  • Shapeways price for selected material
  • Final price including VAT, markup
  • VAT selection
  • Target Pricing - Calculates scale which will meet target price
  • Scaled Pricing - Calculate price based on scaling
  • Polycount warning/bailout if over 1.000.000



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Re: 3D Studio max pricing script/utility [message #3244 is a reply to message #3223 ] Thu, 05 March 2009 08:03 UTC Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Virtox,

that is quite simply awesome!

Have others tried it yet? What do they think of it?


Feedback [message #3293 is a reply to message #3223 ] Tue, 10 March 2009 10:59 UTC Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Please don't be afraid to share any ideas you might have for this tool
Anything can be done unless proven otherwise Cool



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Re: 3D Max 2009 Pricing Utility BETA available [message #3294 is a reply to message #3293 ] Tue, 10 March 2009 14:10 UTC Go to previous messageGo to next message
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wow, this is a great bennefit for the community, i'm going to test it right away!

thank you!
New: 3D Max 2009 Pricing Utility BETA2 [message #3674 is a reply to message #3294 ] Mon, 30 March 2009 22:08 UTC Go to previous messageGo to next message
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As per request I hurried a new version online.
Hope I got all the kinks out Rolling Eyes

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Re: New: 3D Max 2009 Pricing Utility BETA2 [message #3681 is a reply to message #3674 ] Tue, 31 March 2009 08:00 UTC Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Sweeeeeeet!
Re: Feedback [message #3745 is a reply to message #3293 ] Fri, 03 April 2009 22:59 UTC Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Can you make it support Version 8? I get an error message when trying to run it.
3D Max R8-R2009 Pricing Utility Beta4 [message #3746 is a reply to message #3745 ] Fri, 03 April 2009 23:11 UTC Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Ok, BETA4 is up, and should from 3d Max R8 and up !
Only tested in Max R8sp3 and Max R2009.
Does have some visual issues in R8, but nothing serious.

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Re: 3D Max R8-R2009 Pricing Utility Beta4 [message #3750 is a reply to message #3746 ] Sat, 04 April 2009 16:05 UTC Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Virtox,

I think you have to change your nick into VIRTUOS.
Could you make it also as a plugin for other programs as accutrans or meshlab, or maybe as the calculator on everybodies computer?

Great work,
AO
Re: 3D Max R8-R2009 Pricing Utility Beta4 [message #3756 is a reply to message #3750 ] Sat, 04 April 2009 20:35 UTC Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Thanks Very Happy

The current version is written in maxscript, the internal scripting language for 3d max, pretty straightforward with al the 3d functions.
I don't really know meshlab or accutrans, so I have no idea if they support plugins and in what format. I had a quick look and it didn't look like it, but I could be wrong, anyone with more expertise on these programs or other programs ?

I was thinking of writing a version for a good free easy to use 3d program, but I have to find a friendly "host" and get to know it, before I could write a sensible plugin. But there is of course the blenderscript by Loonsbury which solves that Wink
(I wish I had the time to switch to/learn blender.. max sucks sometimes Razz, but you don't throw away 10 years of knowledge/experience/habit )

I have been thinking about a standalone application, but this would entail a whole lote more research/work. Since it would also require file format support, 3d parsing and everything.
I don't have the time for that, I also want to model ! Smile

And I would think Shapeways has the best angle of providing a desktop application, since they already have the server version Very Happy

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Re: 3D Max R8-R2009 Pricing Utility Beta4 [message #3760 is a reply to message #3756 ] Sat, 04 April 2009 21:37 UTC Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Would people really like a desktop app? Or would they prefer plug ins for the software they use?
Re: 3D Max R8-R2009 Pricing Utility Beta4 [message #3765 is a reply to message #3760 ] Sun, 05 April 2009 07:31 UTC Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Hi Joris,

I think a desktop app that can import stl or obj would be the most convenient since there are so many different softwarepackages available.

AO
Re: 3D Max R8-R2009 Pricing Utility Beta4 [message #3766 is a reply to message #3756 ] Sun, 05 April 2009 07:42 UTC Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Virtox,

Most of us are modelers and hobyist.
Having a job and also spending alot of time on modeling or writing a app like you did makes it extra hard.
The hours at night count double or even triple........the frustrations are at least triple Sad .
Therefore don't forget to model Smile and having fun in that.

AO
Re: 3D Max R8-R2009 Pricing Utility BETA4 [message #3922 is a reply to message #3223 ] Wed, 15 April 2009 08:06 UTC Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I was wondering, why does the volume-calculation (without any other checks) take so long? When using 3dsmax's own Measure-tool (under Utilities -> Measure) the volume is calculated in real time. I assume you've used a different algorithm, but why is that?
Re: 3D Max R8-R2009 Pricing Utility BETA4 [message #3926 is a reply to message #3922 ] Wed, 15 April 2009 08:58 UTC Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Hi there,
The simple answer is : maxscript IS slow Confused
Unfortunately there is no way I can get access to the info from the measure tool from within maxscript, the only workaround is to do the calculation inside the script itself, which is just terribly slow. The actual algorithm is the same, I think.

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3D Max R8-R2009 Pricing Utility BETA 5 [message #3928 is a reply to message #3926 ] Wed, 15 April 2009 09:57 UTC Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Ok, I held you guys back a little, I was still testing the latest version.
But BETA 5 is here, approximately twice as fast as BETA 4.

Hope I got all the kinks out !
And as usual any feedback is welcome !

Stijn

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Re: 3D Max R8-R2009 Pricing Utility BETA 5 [message #3933 is a reply to message #3928 ] Wed, 15 April 2009 14:57 UTC Go to previous messageGo to next message
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You rock!
Re: 3D Max R8-R2009 Pricing Utility BETA 7 [message #6151 is a reply to message #3223 ] Sat, 29 August 2009 16:54 UTC Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Beta 7 online, updated dollar2euro, stainless steel, new WSF pricing.
For file, see opening post.

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Re: 3D Max R8-R2009 Pricing Utility BETA 7 [message #6169 is a reply to message #6151 ] Sun, 30 August 2009 10:26 UTC Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Thanx for the update Virtox! Very Happy


and it works good Very Happy
Re: 3D Max R8-R2009 Pricing Utility BETA 7 [message #6170 is a reply to message #6169 ] Sun, 30 August 2009 11:31 UTC Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Good to hear !

Did it solve your price discrepancy I saw in another topic ?
(Quite curious where that came from)


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Re: 3D Max R8-R2009 Pricing Utility Beta4 [message #6261 is a reply to message #3760 ] Thu, 03 September 2009 18:54 UTC Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Desktop App.

Build it in Adobe Flex and it will be universal... meaning it can run on PC / Mac / Linux... (with the appropriate runtime of course)

But I agree on the Desktop Part. MUCH easier. Rather than trying to manage plugins for ALL the different apps and ALL their different versions...


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Re: 3D Max R8-R2009 Pricing Utility Beta4 [message #8754 is a reply to message #6261 ] Wed, 06 January 2010 01:45 UTC Go to previous messageGo to next message
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This is totally awesome!

Thank you so much for this tool!

So, how much ya gonna charge for V1.0? Wink
Re: 3D Max R8-R2009 Pricing Utility Beta4 [message #8755 is a reply to message #8754 ] Wed, 06 January 2010 10:14 UTC Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Glad you like it ! Should you find any bugs or have ideas for improvements, just let me know !

v1.0 will arrive by the year 2100, or was it 2010, I forgot.
And the price will be an arm and a leg.

Nah, it's my gift to the shapeways community.
But rating of my latest models is always appreciated :
Latest models
And since I have more ideas than money, I created the
TriMatrix Special Unlimited Sponsor Edition
It has an increased markup, through which people can help and support this struggling artist Wink

Kind regards,

Stijn

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Re: 3D Max R8-R2009 Pricing Utility BETA 7 [message #11417 is a reply to message #3223 ] Sun, 04 April 2010 08:36 UTC Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Just a little bump, also gauging for update needs ? Bugs found ?

Still working on a practical solution to add the wall thickness checks and improve the manifold check. But maxscript seems too sluggish and the c++ API too buggy/cumbersome.

Ah, and again I see I have neglected to update the latest version here.
I will polish up the code and add it asap. It has a user-editable config for the prices and materials infos.

And I'm thinking of an STL "quick" export (and import) feature.

Even pondering the idea of implementing the shapeways upload API, but I'm not familiar with the used http interface.

So in short : any new wishes ?

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Re: 3D Max R8-R2009 Pricing Utility BETA 7 [message #12929 is a reply to message #3223 ] Mon, 17 May 2010 16:20 UTC Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Just wanted to say thanks for your hard work. The plug-in is very useful.
Re: 3D Max R8-R2009 Pricing Utility BETA 8 [message #13390 is a reply to message #3223 ] Fri, 04 June 2010 22:24 UTC Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Thank you ! Always nice to hear !

I updated the script and opening post, please check it out !



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Re: Feedback [message #15798 is a reply to message #3293 ] Sat, 07 August 2010 16:05 UTC Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Hi Virtox,
Seems to be a great app, but it doesn't work for me on MAX2009.
The object is not being calculated + there is a white square appearing in the viewing panes

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Hi Smile

It looks like you have multiple objects selected, that does not work yet.
It only works for a single mesh or poly object.

Did you get any warnings or error messages ?
After a (major) error its usually best to reload the script.

I will see if I can improve the error handling and feedback a bit.

Thanks for the feedback !

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Re: 3D Max R8-R2009 Pricing Utility BETA 8 [message #15804 is a reply to message #3223 ] Sun, 08 August 2010 13:53 UTC Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Excellent tool, many thanks!
Re: 3D Max R8-R2009 Pricing Utility BETA 8 [message #16711 is a reply to message #15804 ] Thu, 26 August 2010 11:23 UTC Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Thank you! Smile

Any remarks/wishes?

Cheers,

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3D Max R8-R2009 Pricing Utility BETA 9 [message #27599 is a reply to message #3223 ] Mon, 16 May 2011 13:58 UTC Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Shapeways Calculator Beta9 online ! Smile

- Bugs squashed!
- Glazed ceramics support!
- WSF density discount!
- Open source code!

I forgot to add WSFP to the config, will try to add shortly, but one can add/edit it themselves Smile

Updates courtesy of anonymous contributors via Triple Matrix Sponsor

Cheers

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I don't think it works on Max 2012. It fleshes out some of the dimensions but not the actual pricing/material picker.

Please help. Smile


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Can you explain a bit more what you did to install the script + config?
What does the text in the scrollbox under checks and warnings say?
Config loaded ok?

I do not have 2012 to test unfortunately.
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After downloading the zip, I placed both files into:

C:\Program Files\Autodesk\3ds Max 2012\Scripts

Upon running the script it props an error immediately saying:

Ini file not found C:\User\Seth\AppData\Local\Autodesk\3dsMax\2012 - 64bit\enu\plugcfg\VirTools.ini

This directory/path doesn't exist on my system. I'm running Windows 7-64 bit with Autodesk 64-bit.

The Checks and Warnings continuously says "Test object size : TOO BIG" regardless of how small I make it. The object in question is 22mm diameter.

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Re: 3D Max R8-R2009 Pricing Utility BETA 9 [message #28386 is a reply to message #28380 ] Mon, 30 May 2011 20:40 UTC Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Hi,

C:\User\Seth\AppData\Local\Autodesk\3dsMax\2012 - 64bit\enu\plugcfg\
is given to the script by your max program.
And is where the virtools.ini should be.

It is probably a hidden path. If you paste that into your explorer you can still browse it.

I'll see if I can find an easier install path for the config.

And because the config is not loaded there is no material info or max dimension -> everything bigger than zero is rejected.
Perhaps I'll look into error handling.


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Yes, it's a hidden path. Smile

It's working here on Max 2012.

I thought it wasn't working a couple of days ago, but I didn't see the "Calculate" button.

Seems to be working fine, now. Smile

Any chance of adding FUD to it? Very Happy
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I'll try to update the config file.


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Re: 3D Max R8-R2009 Pricing Utility BETA 9 [message #28389 is a reply to message #28388 ] Mon, 30 May 2011 21:09 UTC Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Attached a quick update of the ini file only.
Removed, script was updated

You can also use the "edit config" option to fiddle with the settings.
Most values should be self-explanatory (although a bit cryptic sometimes Razz)

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Thank you!

It seems to work for me. Smile (Well, it was a penny off for FUD. Razz )

[Updated on: Mon, 30 May 2011 21:51 UTC]

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virtox wrote on Mon, 30 May 2011 20:40

Hi,

C:\User\Seth\AppData\Local\Autodesk\3dsMax\2012 - 64bit\enu\plugcfg\
is given to the script by your max program.
And is where the virtools.ini should be.

It is probably a hidden path. If you paste that into your explorer you can still browse it.

I'll see if I can find an easier install path for the config.

And because the config is not loaded there is no material info or max dimension -> everything bigger than zero is rejected.
Perhaps I'll look into error handling.


I've posted the address into windows explorer and it still says "Windows can't find". I've tried deleting directories all the way down to AppData and it props the same error. Curious, this is an admin account if those folders are only created when using multiple UAC's. Any other suggestions?

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