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icon10.gif  Army of FUD! [message #27452] Fri, 13 May 2011 12:11 UTC Go to next message
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Received a huge package today, of my test batch of FD and FUD.

My preliminary observation is that FUD is clearer yellowish. FD is cloudy/frosted. The material is strange, I won't call it flexible, but soft so that you can bend it. But not like WSF's "spring back to original position" kind of flexible. Some thin parts are actually brittle. My tiny soldiers keep breaking apart. They are in FUD. If Shapeways can have a material with quality of FUD but strength of White detail, that would be good enough for me.

Here are some of the items, and some quick painting test. Models in 1:144. FUD in the left of the photo, FD on the right. The pin is for scale, which measures 38mm or 1.5 in in length.
http://www.combatgroupdynamix.com/Diorama/WargameSeries/FUD/SizeReference01.jpg
http://www.combatgroupdynamix.com/Diorama/WargameSeries/FUD/FDFUDCompare02.jpg
http://www.combatgroupdynamix.com/Diorama/WargameSeries/FUD/FDFUDCompare03.jpg
http://www.combatgroupdynamix.com/Diorama/WargameSeries/FUD/FDFUDCompare04.jpg

Here are two models spray painted with one coat of Tamiya fine primer. The FD clearly shows layering.
http://www.combatgroupdynamix.com/Diorama/WargameSeries/FUD/SizeReference02.jpg
http://www.combatgroupdynamix.com/Diorama/WargameSeries/FUD/PrimerTest03.jpg
http://www.combatgroupdynamix.com/Diorama/WargameSeries/FUD/PrimerTest05.jpg
http://www.combatgroupdynamix.com/Diorama/WargameSeries/FUD/PrimerTest07.jpg
Re: Army of FUD! [message #27454 is a reply to message #27452 ] Fri, 13 May 2011 12:27 UTC Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Very nice results!
Seems that even the smallest details survived.

The painted version looks great! Hard to believe it´s such a small scale model.
Re: Army of FUD! [message #27461 is a reply to message #27454 ] Fri, 13 May 2011 13:40 UTC Go to previous messageGo to next message
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The fourth picture down I can see the results between the two materials most clearly, loving the FUD. I can even see the difference in detail between the primered pieces. Very, very nice.
Re: Army of FUD! [message #27467 is a reply to message #27461 ] Fri, 13 May 2011 15:28 UTC Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Wow these are amaing results!
Re: Army of FUD! [message #27503 is a reply to message #27467 ] Fri, 13 May 2011 21:37 UTC Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Thanks for the photos and write up. Primered FUD looks v. nice. Lovely model.


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Re: Army of FUD! [message #27760 is a reply to message #27503 ] Wed, 18 May 2011 15:05 UTC Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Those are awesome! I'm really excited to see some results on FUD/FD which look like they're up to par.


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Re: Army of FUD! [message #27763 is a reply to message #27760 ] Wed, 18 May 2011 15:19 UTC Go to previous messageGo to next message
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ana wrote on Wed, 18 May 2011 15:05

Those are awesome! I'm really excited to see some results on FUD/FD which look like they're up to par.




I found that the material is quite brittle. If they can be a bit tougher like White Detail, that would be perfect. Very Happy

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Re: Army of FUD! [message #27765 is a reply to message #27763 ] Wed, 18 May 2011 15:30 UTC Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Think thats cause of the thickness!?
I've got a train here with 1mm thickness and it's really solid and not brittle at all!

Please show us the pictures when you painted the models!
Re: Army of FUD! [message #27770 is a reply to message #27765 ] Wed, 18 May 2011 16:01 UTC Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Jettuh wrote on Wed, 18 May 2011 15:30

Think thats cause of the thickness!?
I've got a train here with 1mm thickness and it's really solid and not brittle at all!

Please show us the pictures when you painted the models!


I only managed to finished painting some soldiers so far (as posted in: http://www.shapeways.com/forum/index.php?t=msg&th=5237&a mp;start=0&
index.php?t=getfile&id=8925&private=0
index.php?t=getfile&id=8926&private=0

Some were broken during shipment, the damage rate is much higher than the usual materials. And some were broken during painting. I got some tank gun barrels broken in shipment too. Dropped one on the floor and it shattered. Confused
index.php?t=getfile&id=8927&private=0

Re: Army of FUD! [message #27771 is a reply to message #27770 ] Wed, 18 May 2011 16:07 UTC Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Wow, amazing!

But the question to this is:
is the damage rate it worth?

or do you think you better can use other material?

A big plus is (i guess) that you can use these as master models for resin?

SO you just need a few of the masters wich aren't damaged, and then give them a resin bath and duplicate them for just a few $
Re: Army of FUD! [message #27772 is a reply to message #27771 ] Wed, 18 May 2011 16:26 UTC Go to previous message
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Jettuh wrote on Wed, 18 May 2011 16:07

Wow, amazing!

But the question to this is:
is the damage rate it worth?

or do you think you better can use other material?

A big plus is (i guess) that you can use these as master models for resin?

SO you just need a few of the masters wich aren't damaged, and then give them a resin bath and duplicate them for just a few $


The chief worry I have is shipping of the painted products to my own customers. Will they break during transit and how durable when the customers play with them.

I guess using them as master for a more durable resin cast is possible but some of the figures will need to be redesigned to prevent undercuts.

The great thing about being able to use this directly from the 3D printer is that I don't have to worry about the undercuts when making molds. I can make the figures as natural as real person poses.

The cost for each figure right now is quite okay actually, because they occupy so little volume.

 
   
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