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Re: Designing dice for dice snobs [message #17480 is a reply to message #17476 ] Thu, 09 September 2010 04:55 UTC Go to previous messageGo to next message
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GHP wrote on Thu, 09 September 2010 02:56

Also, it is appealing to dice collectors? I'm considering whether to do the same sort of thing with different numbers of sides.


I was planning on getting one at some point....

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Re: Designing dice for dice snobs [message #17481 is a reply to message #17480 ] Thu, 09 September 2010 08:00 UTC Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I am kind of curious what you think of my puzzle. I can't print it on my 3D printer so I ordered one from Shapeways to see how it works. Both a puzzle and a working Die. http://www.shapeways.com/model/153397/puzzle_die.html


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Re: Designing dice for dice snobs [message #17483 is a reply to message #17481 ] Thu, 09 September 2010 11:16 UTC Go to previous messageGo to next message
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mctrivia wrote on Thu, 09 September 2010 08:00

I am kind of curious what you think of my puzzle. I can't print it on my 3D printer so I ordered one from Shapeways to see how it works. Both a puzzle and a working Die. http://www.shapeways.com/model/153397/puzzle_die.html


Looks very cool, and it's a really nice idea. I am curious how it works, though; it looks as though each side has nine complete tiles in it, so how do they slide? And what's the thinking behind the containing cage? It looks like it might get in the way a bit. I'm also no expert in sliding puzzles, though, so maybe it makes perfect sense. Razz

Now you've done that, I find myself thinking that a Rubik's Cube-style die would work really well, and I'd be surprised if no-one's thought of it before...

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Re: Designing dice for dice snobs [message #17490 is a reply to message #17483 ] Thu, 09 September 2010 12:17 UTC Go to previous messageGo to next message
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The pieces can slide around due to the fact there is 1 missing in the cube arangement. the cages center bar is 1.5mm wide and thick to try to minimize how much it would get in the way. Even with trying to minimize that some with bigger fingers will probably find it easier to do the puzzle with a tooth pick or stylus. The pieces are 9.8mm on all sides with a 0.2mm gap between them so they can be printed with white strong or aluminide.

I can definitely design a rubicks cube die and it was next on my to do list. It is a bit of a balancing act to make small so it is cheap and more usable as a die but big enough to use.


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Re: Designing dice for dice snobs [message #17511 is a reply to message #17480 ] Thu, 09 September 2010 21:14 UTC Go to previous messageGo to next message
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gumball wrote on Thu, 09 September 2010 04:55

I was planning on getting one at some point....


Thank you! That's encouraging. (And I've got an order for one now too Smile .)
Re: Designing dice for dice snobs [message #17512 is a reply to message #16979 ] Thu, 09 September 2010 21:57 UTC Go to previous messageGo to next message
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It does seem that novelty dice are pretty much guaranteed sellers; my first die design is the first model I've sold, and it did so within a couple of days of my submitting it. I need to get my thinking cap on for more... Wink

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Re: Designing dice for dice snobs [message #17513 is a reply to message #17512 ] Thu, 09 September 2010 21:59 UTC Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Drawn-Steel Hero wrote on Thu, 09 September 2010 21:57

It does seem that novelty dice are pretty much guaranteed sellers; my first die design is the first model I've sold, and it did so within a couple of days of my submitting it. I need to get my thinking cap on for more... Wink

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Re: Designing dice for dice snobs [message #17545 is a reply to message #16979 ] Fri, 10 September 2010 18:04 UTC Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Hey Dice Collectors,

Few more dices added to my page - Enjoy !

Hollow D6 Dice (With balancing inner ball)

Spherical Helix D6 Dice


Helix D3 Dice


The latest : Twisted Bars D6 Dice

index.php?t=getfile&id=4966&private=0



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Re: Designing dice for dice snobs [message #17548 is a reply to message #17545 ] Fri, 10 September 2010 19:12 UTC Go to previous messageGo to next message
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i have 2 more also http://shapeways.com/shops/propmodule

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Re: Designing dice for dice snobs [message #17578 is a reply to message #16979 ] Sat, 11 September 2010 19:09 UTC Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Hello Shapers & Dice collectors,

As promised.. here are few more.. unique Dices added to my page - Enjoy !


Mirrored D12 Dice


Truncated Rhombicosidodecahedron



This one is an Organic version of the Truncated Rhombicosidodecahedron D12 Dice


index.php?t=getfile&id=4983&private=0


According to Google this could be a first.



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Re: Designing dice for dice snobs [message #17579 is a reply to message #16979 ] Sat, 11 September 2010 19:11 UTC Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Forgot this one, Rotary D12 Dice (2 parts swivel using a hinge)

index.php?t=getfile&id=4986&private=0




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Re: Designing dice for dice snobs [message #17611 is a reply to message #16979 ] Mon, 13 September 2010 03:00 UTC Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Somebody stop me ! Very Happy


Yet another batch of cool dices added to my page.
- Enjoy


A Menger Sponge fractal D6 Dice - this cool D6 dice uses math to create a level 3 fractal (creating copies of itself inward) up to 1mm thick walls - cant go beyond that for 3D printing at this size.

Stacked balls D6 Dice

Wizard's D7 Dice
Pick a day of the week when face lands towards you.

Odd shaped D8 Dice

Kepler-Poinsot polyhedron D12 Dice - A star-like dice.



Last one , one of my favorites...

An Oloid D4 Dice

Awesome shape !
Again, according to Google nothing like it was made yet as dice - so you saw it first on Shapeways!




index.php?t=getfile&id=4996&private=0



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Re: Designing dice for dice snobs [message #17658 is a reply to message #16979 ] Mon, 13 September 2010 18:53 UTC Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Check it out .

Extruded Pipe D6

http://www.stop4stuff.com/images/extruded-pipe-dice-v01.jpg

2.3 cm sides, made with a single 1mm pipe/wire making up the whole construction.
Re: Designing dice for dice snobs [message #17666 is a reply to message #17658 ] Mon, 13 September 2010 21:45 UTC Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Now that I like. Smile

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Re: Designing dice for dice snobs [message #17730 is a reply to message #17666 ] Tue, 14 September 2010 19:39 UTC Go to previous messageGo to next message
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The Extruded pipe die is awesome and I'll probably get one as soon as I make another order.


Dizingof:
You've put a bunch of interesting dice up lately, however... Your gear dice just don't work for me, maybe for someone else it will work but my group wouldn't allow those at the table.

Ignoring the fact that I'd have a hard time buying a die over $20 (I'm a spendthrift and a cheap-ass, go figure), the gear dice aren't symmetrical and my group would dismiss them as "unfair". No having had one in my hands, I would also expect them to land more on the concave portions then the convex ones.

P.S. if someone orders a Swirl Die (yeah, I know it's over $20, shut up, I like it!) and an Octahedral Die in the next week or so, you know it's me!
Re: Designing dice for dice snobs [message #17731 is a reply to message #17730 ] Tue, 14 September 2010 19:47 UTC Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Thanks Gumball.

If you want to hang fire for a few weeks, I'll be ordering one myself in SS to see if it turns out ok (+ i've another design on the go that i'd like to get in too)

[edit] Cheers Andy Thumbs Up

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Re: Designing dice for dice snobs [message #17732 is a reply to message #17730 ] Tue, 14 September 2010 20:23 UTC Go to previous messageGo to next message
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gumball wrote on Tue, 14 September 2010 19:39

The Extruded pipe die is awesome and I'll probably get one as soon as I make another order.


Dizingof:
You've put a bunch of interesting dice up lately, however... Your gear dice just don't work for me, maybe for someone else it will work but my group wouldn't allow those at the table.

Ignoring the fact that I'd have a hard time buying a die over $20 (I'm a spendthrift and a cheap-ass, go figure), the gear dice aren't symmetrical and my group would dismiss them as "unfair". No having had one in my hands, I would also expect them to land more on the concave portions then the convex ones.

P.S. if someone orders a Swirl Die (yeah, I know it's over $20, shut up, I like it!) and an Octahedral Die in the next week or so, you know it's me!


Hey gumball

First, i'm told i started a designers dice frenzy on shapeways... well i'm happy about it, mainly thanks to your thread.

The latest Gear D10 Dice is actually symmetrical (minus 1 mm on one side)

index.php?t=getfile&id=5057&private=0



The Gear D6 isnt - making it symmetrical makes it over $40 for metal printing.. so i leave it as "novelty" and avoid "non fair" sized in the future.

About dies cost - i personally use the most efficient method to hollow my models , as you can see on this post :
http://www.shapeways.com/forum/index.php?t=msg&S=d25c6bf 773e35783765ba888cfaa5a13&th=1169&goto=17654#msg_176 54

Any other method suggested at that thread will not come close , meaning i cut printing cost to the bare minimum WITH the recommended wall thickness - so in fact i put cost & affordability as main factor when designing a new dice.

After all 3D printing dice isnt a mass production dice.

I also hate to say it by markup is ridiculously low Very Happy
I do enjoy the design process and the feedback from dice collectors community.


Enjoy Wink
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Re: Designing dice for dice snobs [message #17736 is a reply to message #17732 ] Tue, 14 September 2010 21:08 UTC Go to previous messageGo to next message
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dizingof wrote on Tue, 14 September 2010 20:23

The latest Gear D10 Dice is actually symmetrical (minus 1 mm on one side)


Sorry, it was having some numbers on the ends that I was referring to. In my perfect dice world all the sides are the same shape and size.

dizingof wrote on Tue, 14 September 2010 20:23

About dies cost - i personally use the most efficient method to hollow my models , as you can see on this post :
http://www.shapeways.com/forum/index.php?t=msg&S=d25c6bf 773e35783765ba888cfaa5a13&th=1169&goto=17654#msg_176 54

Any other method suggested at that thread will not come close , meaning i cut printing cost to the bare minimum WITH the recommended wall thickness - so in fact i put cost & affordability as main factor when designing a new dice.

After all 3D printing dice isnt a mass production dice.

I also hate to say it by markup is ridiculously low Very Happy
I do enjoy the design process and the feedback from dice collectors community.

Enjoy Wink
Dizingof


I never meant to imply that your designs weren't optimized to the max, or that you were gouging on your markup.

The fact is that I work 3/4 time for a private non-profit and without my own online sales ( lulu.com , cafepress.com , tijuana-bible.com , luridfridge.com ) I couldn't afford my fun purchases. Rachel (my SO) has agreed that those are so variable and unreliable, that I don't have to count them in the monthly budget and I can do what I please with that money! In return, I promised not to look too closely at the column marked "shoes" in the monthly budget. Very Happy
Re: Designing dice for dice snobs [message #17747 is a reply to message #16979 ] Wed, 15 September 2010 02:53 UTC Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Here is a new one Wink

A Wizard's D6 Dice

It has an inner copy of itself balancing the dice by landing between 2 bars (see cross section pic).


index.php?t=getfile&id=5062&private=0

cross section:

http://i53.tinypic.com/24dr5te.jpg


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that is a cool die. I think I will order one with my next order.


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not a die per say but here is a d6 roulette wheel http://www.shapeways.com/model/155326/roulette_d6_spinner.ht ml?gid=ug49347

d8 and d4 coming soon


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That's quite cool. I take it there's some way of definitively telling which "side" it's landed on?

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yes

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mctrivia wrote on Wed, 15 September 2010 14:30

not a die per say but here is a d6 roulette wheel http://www.shapeways.com/model/155326/roulette_d6_spinner.ht ml?gid=ug49347

d8 and d4 coming soon



I like the roulette d6 !

My second dice from yesterday is a cute D4 dice - The Steiner Surface D4 Dice


index.php?t=getfile&id=5069&private=0

http://i55.tinypic.com/16b0zdd.jpg


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thanks glad you like. got d4 and d8 up now. i can make 10,12 and 20 but it would start to get hard to read so i will make if requested only


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Re: Designing dice for dice snobs [message #17825 is a reply to message #16979 ] Thu, 16 September 2010 03:19 UTC Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Wow ! i designed 40 (!) dies since this thread begun ! Cool

Here is the daily fix.. 4 new beauties:

Gear cube D6 dice

http://i51.tinypic.com/2m64vmh.jpg



Big Rhombic triacontahedron D30 Dice
- This is a big one with the numbers clear & readable - 1.5mm depth.

http://i53.tinypic.com/23r8u38.jpg



Chaos D6 Dice


And my 40th dice ! Smile

The Wizard's D4 top Dice

index.php?t=getfile&id=5082&private=0

http://i56.tinypic.com/2zitzq9.jpg




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you need to leave a hold to drain the excess powder or else the weight wont function.

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berky93 wrote on Thu, 16 September 2010 03:30

you need to leave a hold to drain the excess powder or else the weight wont function.


Hit the "View in 3D" link in any dice page to see the hole..




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Still a wip, too many polygons & not quite lined up right.

I call this D6.

"Chained"

http://www.stop4stuff.com/shapeways/images/chained-wip-1.jpg

[edit] Update.

Success!

"Chained Die D6" is now printable Smile

http://www.stop4stuff.com/shapeways/images/chained-die-D6.jpg

Each side is 2.7 cm with approx 12mm tall numbers and 1mm dia wire making up the chains and rings.

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here is a spherical d3 i designee

http://www.shapeways.com/model/155857/spherical_d3.html?gid= ug49347

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Nice !

Will it not land on the opposite hemispheres? the empty ones?


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the inner channel is mostly a cylinder. the weight will always go to the opposite side of one of the numbers. i will try printing one out on my home printer today. may not work since my printer is a FDM printer not laser sintering


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cool... let us know with some pics please Smile
love to hear more on that printer, is that a rep rap?


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i am going to build a reprap soon. currently using a makerbot


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Folks here is a new die hot out of the oven:

"Pre-Historic" D6 Dice

index.php?t=getfile&id=5102&private=0


http://i51.tinypic.com/15z2wkj.jpg


http://i54.tinypic.com/34t8gll.jpg


http://i56.tinypic.com/103spwm.jpg


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i just removed so people cant order until i am sure it will work


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The other day I sort of cut to the chase with dice-designing. I've been making several dice I've been calling "open", that are hollow, made of struts, with each face having a solid plate the same shape as the face but *tilted* and sunken a little, and the label embossed there. So there's the Open d12 and the Open *Rhombic* d12 (yeah, I know that's two d12s, and d12s aren't the most useful dice anyway, but they both looked nice!), and the Open d8. But when I did the d6, I went all the way and made it Co-Creator, so people can give me whatever they want on its faces and I'll put them there. It looks pretty cool in its default state too. So at least as far as labeling the sides, the Open Customizable d6 is pretty much as far as it goes, since it can be anything.

I could also offer a solid full-color sandstone cube with *ANY* picture you want on the faces, but that seems too easy (though I did make one with nice rounded edges...)

Bringing this thread back to its original purpose, I note that although the default form of the Open d6 *does* have opposing faces adding to 7 and 1,2,3 going counterclockwise, since it is to be made to order I cannot be responsible for customers who order strange nonstandard labellings, and I apologize in advance to any dice snobs who may get offended at that. Smile

We should probably have someplace special to post new creations instead of clogging this thread with ads, I think.
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clsn wrote on Thu, 16 September 2010 18:21

I apologize in advance to any dice snobs who may get offended at that. Smile


Hey, I'm not offended... I just won't have one of "those dice" in my collection! Very Happy
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So gumball.. where were we?

Oh yeah.. "Pre-Historic" D12 Dice

index.php?t=getfile&id=5113&private=0








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clsn wrote on Thu, 16 September 2010 18:21


[SIZE=5]We should probably have someplace special to post new creations instead of clogging this thread with ads, I think.[/SIZE]


Just thought that paragraph might have been overlooked.

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