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Designing and printing a bicycle stem [message #66215] Tue, 16 April 2013 18:14 UTC Go to next message
avatar brunoxyz  is currently offline brunoxyz
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Hello all, I would like to hear experienced opinions about what I am about to attempt. I would like to print a custom front piece for a bicycle stem, and was wandering if it would actually be strong enough, and what material should I use.

This is the part that I would design and print http://www.paragonmachineworks.com/PDGImages/SP4002.jpg

and this is a bike stem for reference. it holds the handlebar and fork together. http://thumbs4.ebaystatic.com/d/l225/m/mTJaIacUu1LTfkEpKAxYq zQ.jpg

Should I design and print the whole thing or can I get away with designing the front plate where I am trying to add some custom art.

Would the stress from the screws that hold it together or the forces from the handlebar crack the printed part?

I have never printed anything in 3D even though I have read a good amount about it, so almost any opinion should be useful.

Thanks!

some inspiration: https://vimeo.com/34293503

[Updated on: Tue, 16 April 2013 18:16 UTC]

Re: Designing and printing a bicycle stem [message #66381 is a reply to message #66215 ] Thu, 18 April 2013 21:29 UTC Go to previous messageGo to next message
avatar Mhagan  is currently offline Mhagan
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as an avid cyclist and certified 3Dprinting Nerd, I would say, It probably could be with the right design but I am not sure enough to bet my life on it. The results of stem failure, I have seen some in races, are almost always catastrophic. Personally I would err on the safe side and make a badge to be epoxied on a normal stem front plate and leave the load bearing part design to the engineers at cycling component manufacturers. This would open up a whole new range of materials, I think Polished Alumide would be pretty snazzy as a badge on the stem.

[Updated on: Thu, 18 April 2013 21:30 UTC]


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Re: Designing and printing a bicycle stem [message #66430 is a reply to message #66381 ] Fri, 19 April 2013 14:25 UTC Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Thanks for your reply Mhagan, an exposied badge is a good idea I didn't think of, I am indeed a bit worried that the stem could break and I imagine how nasty such a fall could be at good speeds.

I may give that a try. Or perhaps make a sort of emblem for the front tube on the bike.

thanks!

Re: Designing and printing a bicycle stem [message #66664 is a reply to message #66215 ] Mon, 22 April 2013 21:44 UTC Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I wouldn't trust ANY sintered material to be strong in tension, and would consider it to be fairly weak in compression. As steel goes, stainless is generally weaker than carbon steel, and I would expect a sintered material to behave more like concrete (a composite material - aggregate and cement) than a homogenous material. It might be analogous to particle board - don't bend it too much, don't pull on it too much, and don't bear down on small areas too much.

Shapeways already warns (on the material pages, I think) that printed items should be considered for decorative purposes only. Sure, it's a liability waiver of a statement for them, but it's probably good advice too.

Making a stem cap cover/badge/hood ornament sounds like a grand idea!


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Re: Designing and printing a bicycle stem [message #66957 is a reply to message #66664 ] Sat, 27 April 2013 15:55 UTC Go to previous messageGo to next message
avatar GlenG  is currently offline GlenG
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Yah,
The SS media would be the only thing close to strong enough for a critical structural part. But it is not as strong as common wrought bar stock. Also it is heavy and prone to rust when exposed to the elements. Deifnitely a better idea to use it only as an add on bling detail. And the plastic materials are cheaper and lighter.
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Re: Designing and printing a bicycle stem [message #66973 is a reply to message #66957 ] Sun, 28 April 2013 02:52 UTC Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Thanks for your thoughts on this guys, greatly appreciated. I think I'm definitely going for the decorative elements instead. until 3D printing in metal is cheaper and stronger Smile
Re: Designing and printing a bicycle stem [message #66997 is a reply to message #66973 ] Sun, 28 April 2013 16:24 UTC Go to previous message
avatar GlenG  is currently offline GlenG
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Don't get me wrong, given proper design aspects the SS print material is extremely strong. Just not as strong as forgings or hi alloy castings. Somewhere close to so called malleable cast iron. Generous fillets and radii help insure strength. Still for bike parts where weight and corrosion resistance are prime factors it's probably not a good choice for anything other than quick prototyping.
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