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3d view is sometimes not updated? [message #58682] Sun, 16 December 2012 11:39 UTC Go to next message
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The title is: 3d view is sometimes not updated


recently I've uploaded a model ferquently and it seems that the animated 3d view isn't updated.
http://www.shapeways.com/model/828275/

It seems to happen frequently but today I wanted to share this render and it now shows an old model version.


[Updated on: Fri, 21 December 2012 23:42 UTC] by Moderator


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Re: 3d view is sometimes not updates? [message #58687 is a reply to message #58682 ] Sun, 16 December 2012 13:14 UTC Go to previous messageGo to next message
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The 3d preview looks to me like it's in sync with the rendered model, but I don't know what you changed to be sure.
Is there a chance you need to clear your browser's cache?
What Browser and OS are you using?


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Re: 3d view is sometimes not updates? [message #58689 is a reply to message #58687 ] Sun, 16 December 2012 13:40 UTC Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Think it's not a local problem. If you take a look on the model link you should see it. compare it to the picture and you would see that the men in the rotating view has nothing in hand.
I'm.using nearly all OS .. win7, ubuntu, android ....

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Re: 3d view is sometimes not updates? [message #58690 is a reply to message #58689 ] Sun, 16 December 2012 14:16 UTC Go to previous messageGo to next message
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But he has now - probably took the rotating guy a while to pick up his crowbar/crash axe tool.
(There have been several reports in recent weeks of either the 3d renderer itself or the site update
process lagging behind, sometimes for a few hours)
Re: 3d view is sometimes not updates? [message #58694 is a reply to message #58690 ] Sun, 16 December 2012 18:48 UTC Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I've checked my latest 6 models. None of them shows the latest version in the 3d animated view.

That seems to me a major bug!!!


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Re: 3d view is sometimes not updates? [message #58761 is a reply to message #58682 ] Mon, 17 December 2012 20:31 UTC Go to previous messageGo to next message
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This is happening because the 3D viewer caches for about 24 hours.

We know this is an issue (as it would be great that when you change the file the difference is seen right away!) so it will actually be fixed this week.

You should see all your updated models by Thursday, and from then on, when you re-upload a model, the 3D view will be updated as well without a long time lag!

Best,
Natalia

[Updated on: Mon, 17 December 2012 20:41 UTC]


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Re: 3d view is sometimes not updates? [message #58768 is a reply to message #58761 ] Mon, 17 December 2012 22:17 UTC Go to previous messageGo to next message
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For sure my models have uploads which are more then 24h away.
http://www.shapeways.com/model/828275/firemen-1000-showcase. html?li=my-models&key=99709ab0c31264ac60a175fb72347d48

And yes, when I make a change and publish it in another forum, the a different 3d view may be confusing ....

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Re: 3d view is sometimes not updates? [message #58772 is a reply to message #58768 ] Mon, 17 December 2012 22:55 UTC Go to previous messageGo to next message
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This is what I see in a couple of different browsers:
index.php?t=getfile&id=24494&private=0

It looks correct to me.

  • Attachment: 828275.jpg
    (Size: 32.52KB, Downloaded 127 time(s))


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Re: 3d view is sometimes not updates? [message #58781 is a reply to message #58772 ] Tue, 18 December 2012 01:52 UTC Go to previous messageGo to next message
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That's really strange:
- I still can't see that (also after deleting the browser cache)
- I also can't see it on my android device
- and also not on my vmware image on my Win7 laptop
Woody64

PS: (1)
At least I've found this:
(so the two versions are available at the server)
http://images1.sw-cdn.net/3dviewer/sprite/828275_v1/4x5-482x 357-4.jpg
http://images1.sw-cdn.net/3dviewer/sprite/828275_v2/4x5-482x 357-4.jpg

PS: (2)
Indeed there are all versions available v1... v6.
The viewer is started with:
<iframe id="HTMLViewer" src="http://images1.sw-cdn.net/3dviewer?model=828275" .

and results in some Java script containing the v1 as internal parameter.

Indeed all versions were update in a time frame of 24 hours. It seems to me that the viewer can't handle several versions of a file in 24 hours correctly.
Still not clear why Stoneysmith gets another result. (different time zones leading to different results?)

[Updated on: Tue, 18 December 2012 02:05 UTC]


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Re: 3d view is sometimes not updates? [message #58785 is a reply to message #58781 ] Tue, 18 December 2012 02:19 UTC Go to previous messageGo to next message
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@Nathalie: By the way, why not simple allow a http reference for pictures then these prerendered pictures used for the 3d viewer could easy be referenced and used as additional pictures.

There was often the question to have the main image rendered from a different angle. That's already half of the solution ...


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Re: 3d view is sometimes not updates? [message #58796 is a reply to message #58772 ] Tue, 18 December 2012 09:21 UTC Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Same as I see (and saw when I confirmed stonysmith's observation on sunday), so timezones are probably
not an issue. Could it be that all your devices go through the same caching proxy server ?
Re: 3d view is sometimes not updates? [message #58805 is a reply to message #58796 ] Tue, 18 December 2012 13:01 UTC Go to previous messageGo to next message
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No caching proxy on my side but maybe on the internet provider's sid.
To overcome that I have reconnected my tablet to my handy thus going a complete other way into the internet and get still the same result.

Woody64

[Updated on: Tue, 18 December 2012 13:02 UTC]


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Re: 3d view is sometimes not updates? [message #58814 is a reply to message #58805 ] Tue, 18 December 2012 14:23 UTC Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Very strange. Accessing the site through your mobile phone should indeed ensure a different pathway to the internet.
One last idea - does it matter if you are logged in to shapeways or not ? (Not that i would expect any user-specific caching
on the server side)
Re: 3d view is sometimes not updates? [message #58818 is a reply to message #58814 ] Tue, 18 December 2012 14:55 UTC Go to previous messageGo to next message
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mkroeker wrote on Tue, 18 December 2012 14:23


One last idea - does it matter if you are logged in to shapeways or not ? (Not that i would expect any user-specific caching
on the server side)

No, but let's see what the change on Thursday will bring.
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Re: 3d view is sometimes not updates? [message #58939 is a reply to message #58818 ] Thu, 20 December 2012 10:06 UTC Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Hi woody64,

could you please test this? We released the fix for this issue.

Thanks!

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Re: 3d view is sometimes not updates? [message #58940 is a reply to message #58939 ] Thu, 20 December 2012 10:31 UTC Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Yes clearly fixed. The items are now rotating with the correct version and also the fix is visible in the source code.

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Re: 3d view is sometimes not updates? [message #58941 is a reply to message #58940 ] Thu, 20 December 2012 10:36 UTC Go to previous message
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Great, thanks!


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