| Cease and Desist, Copyrights - What do you want to know? (updated!) [message #28930] Sun, 12 June 2011 16:25 UTC |
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Paramount Pictures's lawyers sent me a cease and desist letter on Friday for a model I uploaded on Thursday night, and told me to take it down. It was a replica white funky cube shaped object from their new movie. I complied. I don't want to sit in a courtroom for the rest of the year. This is an interesting topic for discussion.
This is the rendering Shapeways produced from the .stl file I uploaded of the CAD model I created which looks similar to the prop used in Paramount's film. I am no longer offering these for sale, and am complying with Paramount's demands.
[Updated on: Thu, 10 January 2013 18:15 UTC] by Moderator
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| Re: Cease and Desist [message #28931 is a reply to message #28930 ] Sun, 12 June 2011 16:44 UTC |
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well they are watching this website very well!
uploading a file and getting a cease and desist letter the next day!
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| Re: Cease and Desist [message #28934 is a reply to message #28933 ] Sun, 12 June 2011 18:32 UTC |
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Their film came out Friday in the states, and their trailer was released several months ago.
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| Re: Cease and Desist [message #28935 is a reply to message #28930 ] Sun, 12 June 2011 18:34 UTC |
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title? link?
very interesting.
lot's of props are on shapeways...
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| Re: Cease and Desist [message #28936 is a reply to message #28934 ] Sun, 12 June 2011 18:40 UTC |
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@Todd wow. Well, it's interesting to say the least.
Guys, please be sure to keep me and the rest of the SW team up to date on these sorts of things.
Community Manager | Shapeways
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| Re: Cease and Desist [message #28938 is a reply to message #28936 ] Sun, 12 June 2011 18:46 UTC |
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| ana wrote on Sun, 12 June 2011 18:40 |
@Todd wow. Well, it's interesting to say the least.
Guys, please be sure to keep me and the rest of the SW team up to date on these sorts of things.
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Totally will.
Duann and I skyped about it on Friday
[Updated on: Sun, 12 June 2011 18:47 UTC]
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| Re: Cease and Desist [message #28960 is a reply to message #28930 ] Mon, 13 June 2011 14:09 UTC |
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I never even noticed that in the preview. Is it just me or is it different? The glimpse I saw of it, I thought it didn't have the corner cubes.
The Mad Moder
michael@shapeways.com
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| Re: Cease and Desist [message #28961 is a reply to message #28960 ] Mon, 13 June 2011 14:10 UTC |
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some do some don't. I think the hero prop has them broken off.
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| Re: Cease and Desist [message #29764 is a reply to message #29755 ] Mon, 27 June 2011 08:16 UTC |
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Wow,
Impressive speed! This is an interesting subject as shapeways has obviously caught the attention of big franchise. I wonder though how much the opposite is happening? I am unaware if this has been posted on the forum before but Urban Outfitters ripped of an indie designer (not shapeways related) and started selling the design as their own. This designer obviously could not afford to take legal action so instead they blogged about it and the support from the web was so strong that Urban Outfitters stopped selling the design. I feel that copyright and design protection is a little bit of a gray area perhaps, or not fully matured yet regarding digital file 3D printing? I was happy to read about this little win for an indie designer. Read more here. http://www.ashevillefashions.com/2011/05/boycott-urban-outfi tters-for-ripping-off-indie-designers.html
[Updated on: Mon, 27 June 2011 12:16 UTC]
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| Re: Cease and Desist [message #29787 is a reply to message #29764 ] Mon, 27 June 2011 18:30 UTC |
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i also saw this article covering the Urban outfitters -etsy ripoff, and it just goes to prove that there are very few original ideas. it's a tricky debate of who owns what.
Personally in this case of todd's vibrating cube, I'd want him to post it unless paramount is selling or planning on selling something similar themselves. If it's not available anywhere else the community should have a right to make something available. (i feel similarly about media pirating, if I can get it easily/legally then I'll go for that, if not but it's available by other means then...) But on top of that, I don't think the community has the right to profit off of someone else's proprietary design, it should just be made available for free. that's all just my opinion on an interesting topic.
Jeff Bare
Industrial Designer
@jbaredesign
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| Re: Cease and Desist [message #29788 is a reply to message #29787 ] Mon, 27 June 2011 18:33 UTC |
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QMx Quantum Mechanix Inc has a license from Paramount to produce the super 8 replicas and they'll be doing that this summer
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| Re: Cease and Desist [message #29852 is a reply to message #28930 ] Tue, 28 June 2011 14:41 UTC |
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I have to say the super 8 cube looks more like your Fractal Cube Pendant than the OP's cube.
So does that mean you are going to send them a cease and desist for the movie?
Seriously though don't see how they can stop anyone producing anything that looks somehow vaguely like their prop - after a few more movies there will be no more shapes left for the rest of us to use at this rate.
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| Re: Cease and Desist [message #29853 is a reply to message #29852 ] Tue, 28 June 2011 14:48 UTC |
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I think they're mainly upset since it was on shapeways for sale. Granted I made no sales since I got the email so quickly, but that's what they're most upset about, if I had to guess.
The cube you just posted maybe was a concept version? The one in the film doesn't look like that at all.
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| Re: Cease and Desist [message #29854 is a reply to message #28930 ] Tue, 28 June 2011 14:54 UTC |
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its from that spanish link
http://www.3Dizingof.com
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| Re: Cease and Desist [message #29855 is a reply to message #29854 ] Tue, 28 June 2011 15:00 UTC |
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So are we all going to have to go and see Super 8 now to find out what the cube really looks like?
Maybe this was all a cunning ploy by Paramount........
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| Re: Cease and Desist [message #29856 is a reply to message #29855 ] Tue, 28 June 2011 15:28 UTC |
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i really enjoyed the flick. brought me back to the classic films like ET & Goonies.
Jeff Bare
Industrial Designer
@jbaredesign
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| Re: Cease and Desist [message #29950 is a reply to message #28930 ] Thu, 30 June 2011 13:19 UTC |
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And to further muddy the waters there is now a Public Domain licensed version on the thingverse
http://www.thingiverse.com/thing:9744
So now what happens if we all download this and get it printed at Shapeways???
Are the lawyers coming after all of us?
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| Re: Cease and Desist [message #29954 is a reply to message #28930 ] Thu, 30 June 2011 13:54 UTC |
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Well it's a PD design so you can go and download it and take it to your factory in China - not that they would care anyway.
Of course getting the finished product back into the US might be interesting but you could probably corner the Pacific market.
But now the STL file is out what's to stop people distributing it further - maybe even put in on the Pirate bay?
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| Re: Cease and Desist [message #30151 is a reply to message #30150 ] Sun, 03 July 2011 15:19 UTC |
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It can't be that because if I hadn't submitted the article to boingboing, no one would have picked up the story. I like the theory though!
Another untrue theory going around on some of the comments I've seen posted is that I don't even exist and that the entire thing of me even making the item was a lie and a ploy to get more interest in the movie =)
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| Re: Cease and Desist [message #30534 is a reply to message #28930 ] Sat, 09 July 2011 19:26 UTC |
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haha well he got my 5 stars.. and a free offer to hollow it out .. its too expensive
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| Re: Cease and Desist [message #30545 is a reply to message #28930 ] Sat, 09 July 2011 22:47 UTC |
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Maybe we should all make one - see how many cease and desists we can get them to send out 
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