| Supported applications, I could use a little help [message #9996] Tue, 16 February 2010 15:52 UTC |
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I've been updating our list of Supported Applications (i.e. applications that can export to STL, Collada, X3D or VRML97/2), but it's quite hard to dig up all the required information.
It would help me a LOT if you could have a look and see if I've listed your favorite app, and if my information is correct.
If there's anything I need to add or change, please let a message below.
Thanks a lot!
Bart
Community Manager Europe | Shapeways
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| Re: Supported applications, I could use a little help [message #9997 is a reply to message #9996 ] Tue, 16 February 2010 16:26 UTC |
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Kubotek KeyCreator has very nice STL export. 9 times out of 10 non-manifold issues are my modeling errors, no inverted normals and such. Has VRML2.0 export, but no texture support.
I should mention I use version 7.0. Not sure what has been added since.
[Updated on: Tue, 16 February 2010 16:28 UTC]
The Mad Moder
michael@shapeways.com
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| Re: Supported applications, I could use a little help [message #9998 is a reply to message #9996 ] Tue, 16 February 2010 17:55 UTC |
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Alibre Design native STL export works ok (I had only some little problems with very complicated parts, like railroad model boggie side flange. Though, I don't know if it was my fault or the software...), all the parts Shapeways printed for me have been created using this software. Hint: for people in the U.S. the new price for the standard version is really low...
[Updated on: Tue, 16 February 2010 18:15 UTC]
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| Re: Supported applications, I could use a little help [message #10005 is a reply to message #9996 ] Wed, 17 February 2010 09:58 UTC |
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Thanks guys! I updated the page.
Cheers,
Bart
Community Manager Europe | Shapeways
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| Re: Supported applications, I could use a little help [message #10006 is a reply to message #10005 ] Wed, 17 February 2010 10:19 UTC |
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Hi
Rhino 3D has native stl and vrml 97 and 2
Cheers
V
www.dotsan.com
www.dotsan.com
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| Re: Supported applications, I could use a little help [message #10042 is a reply to message #10006 ] Fri, 19 February 2010 10:58 UTC |
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Thanks VirtualV! List updated.
Cheers,
Bart
Community Manager Europe | Shapeways
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| Re: Supported applications, I could use a little help [message #10189 is a reply to message #10042 ] Thu, 25 February 2010 05:26 UTC |
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Solid Edge can save as stl, until today  I had only had one problem with it in over perhaps 100 files now.
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| Re: Supported applications, I could use a little help [message #10529 is a reply to message #9996 ] Sun, 07 March 2010 04:22 UTC |
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Hi Bart,
The latest version of Google SketchUp is version 7.1 and comes in Free and Pro versions.
The only officially supported 3d export format for Google (free) SketchUp is COLLADA. SketchUp's COLLADA exporter supports textures, but apparently shapeways' COLLADA reader does not (yet?)
There are 3rd party, free .obj and .stl exporters available as plug-ins which work on both the Free and Pro versions. I can't say how well they work.
The Pro version supports several export formats:
* 3DS (.3ds)
* AutoCAD DWG (.dwg)
* AutoCAD DXF (.dxf)
* COLLADA (.dae)
* FBX (.fbx).
* OBJ (.obj)
* XSI (.xsi)
* VRML (.vrml)
I have been able to upload (simple) models directly from SketchUp Pro using its .dae exporter.
I have also been able to export full-color via .dae -> Meshlab -> .wrl work-flow.
There seems to be a limit of a single texture in this workflow, is that correct? Is it a limitation in the vrml format, or is there some other reason?
An ideal work-flow for SketchUp would obviously be export to .dae, make a .zip including the textures, and upload. (A more ideal work-flow would be to upload directly from SketchUp via a plug-in using the Shapeways API.)
Unfortunately, SketchUp puts the texture images in a sub-folder relative to the .dae file, so there may be some extra work in making a .zip for upload. (Plus the texture url in the .dae file is the full path, rather than a relative one.) What would be involved in automating this after the upload to streamline the work-flow?
I would guess other folks would like to be able to cut-out the Meshlab step and go from their modeller -> .dae -> Shapeways.
I also noticed my "upright" models in SketchUp are "end-up" in the Shapeways preview image unless I rotate my model -90 degrees about the X axis in SU before exporting. It would be nice if Shapeways detected this.
Here's shot of the COLLADA export options in SketchUp so you can see what user have to work with.
Finally, I hope this helps, and think it's remarkable what you guys (Shapeways) have been able to accomplish so far.
[Updated on: Sun, 07 March 2010 05:06 UTC]
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| Re: Supported applications, I could use a little help [message #10543 is a reply to message #9996 ] Sun, 07 March 2010 16:40 UTC |
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i have just installed Autocad 2010 and found it has an export option for 3d printing. It is exporting as .stl
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| Re: Supported applications, I could use a little help [message #10554 is a reply to message #10543 ] Mon, 08 March 2010 10:35 UTC |
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@jimfoltz, magic2002: thanks! I've updated the table.
@jimfoltz: you are correct - for now we only support textures in VRML and X3D files. These files *can* contain multiple texture map files, but they cannot overlap. So for example you can't use decal textures or multi-layer textures.
Cheers,
Bart
[Updated on: Mon, 08 March 2010 10:40 UTC]
Community Manager Europe | Shapeways
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| Re: Supported applications, I could use a little help [message #10564 is a reply to message #10554 ] Mon, 08 March 2010 18:23 UTC |
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Is there any way to validate the vrml export from SketchUp?
Inspecting the .wrl file shows all textures listed, but neither Meshlab nor accutrans import them as expected.
I've attached a simple cube which has 2 materials in SketchUp.
Attachment: 2color.zip
(Size: 1.54KB, Downloaded 270 time(s))
[Updated on: Mon, 08 March 2010 18:25 UTC]
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| Re: Supported applications, I could use a little help [message #10572 is a reply to message #10564 ] Tue, 09 March 2010 12:12 UTC |
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Hi jimfoltz,
please don't use this thread for support questions. I did check out your model though and it loads fine into MeshLab for me. I can also upload it to the website and see it in my gallery. So I'm not sure what the issue is?
Please start a new thread if you need further help.
Cheers,
Bart
Community Manager Europe | Shapeways
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| Re: Supported applications, I could use a little help [message #11040 is a reply to message #10194 ] Tue, 23 March 2010 05:47 UTC |
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Hi Bartv, sorry i didn't see your reply.
the 'until today' comment was in regards to I had never had a problem with stl output until that day, when a file consistently corrupted.
All good now, I recommend Solid Edge as an easier/slightly simplified option to Solid Works
-Mark
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| Re: Supported applications, I could use a little help [message #11046 is a reply to message #10543 ] Tue, 23 March 2010 16:20 UTC |
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| magic2002 wrote on Sun, 07 March 2010 16:40 |
i have just installed Autocad 2010 and found it has an export option for 3d printing. It is exporting as .stl
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Another Autodesk product, Revit, has an Autodesk add-on to export to stl. Unfortunately, it's been giving me quite a few problems and no successful 3D prints yet. Maybe Autocad works better?
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| Re: Supported applications, I could use a little help [message #11204 is a reply to message #11046 ] Mon, 29 March 2010 12:34 UTC |
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Thanks phoulx, I've added Revit to the list and made a note that it seems to be problematic.
Cheers,
Bart
Community Manager Europe | Shapeways
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| Re: Supported applications, I could use a little help [message #11779 is a reply to message #9996 ] Thu, 15 April 2010 12:47 UTC |
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OpenSCAD (http://openscad.org/) has native STL support, and refuses to export non-manifold designs.
Cheers,
Olivier
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| Re: Supported applications, I could use a little help [message #11886 is a reply to message #11839 ] Mon, 19 April 2010 14:54 UTC |
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@oiffrig, Granier: thanks for your input! I've updated the list.
Cheers,
Bart
Community Manager Europe | Shapeways
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| Re: Supported applications, I could use a little help [message #12024 is a reply to message #9996 ] Thu, 22 April 2010 20:36 UTC |
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What about Poser Pro?
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| Re: Supported applications, I could use a little help [message #12122 is a reply to message #12024 ] Mon, 26 April 2010 11:06 UTC |
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@shuffer: I'd like to hear some feedback from people who use Poser Pro on our site before I add it to the list. Did you try it yet? Could you successfully upload those Collada files?
Community Manager Europe | Shapeways
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| Re: Supported applications, I could use a little help [message #12574 is a reply to message #9996 ] Fri, 07 May 2010 11:29 UTC |
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Hello guys, I'm new to shapeways and was justlooking for the programs I could use for 3d printing.
Some months ago I bought milkshape3d and I just found out, that milkshape has a X3D and a VRML exporter.
So perhaps you could add that program to your list,
Regards
Caramon
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| Re: Supported applications, I could use a little help [message #12575 is a reply to message #12574 ] Fri, 07 May 2010 12:15 UTC |
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Hi Camaron,
did you test the output on our site, too? Did the files upload correctly?
Cheers,
Bart
Community Manager Europe | Shapeways
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| Re: Supported applications, I could use a little help [message #14740 is a reply to message #9996 ] Wed, 14 July 2010 18:43 UTC |
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Art of Illusion, http://www.artofillusion.org
offers VRML export, as well as Povray V3.5 (.pov) and Wavefront (.obj) . I´ve been using this software for a while and is very intuitive, worth checking.
The file extension is .aoi
Thanks,
Maxcross
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| Re: Supported applications, I could use a little help [message #15526 is a reply to message #9996 ] Sat, 31 July 2010 17:33 UTC |
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For the record, AutoCAD 2000 can also export STL files, so presumably pretty much every non-LT version (i.e. any version with 3D functionality) between then and now can do the same.
Andy
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| Re: Supported applications, I could use a little help [message #15531 is a reply to message #9996 ] Sun, 01 August 2010 06:25 UTC |
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Sir,
I've been using Autodesk Inventor v.11, and while I initially had to use MeshLab to re-save my .STL files in a format that Shapeways could read, that no longer seems to be necessary. I get manifold errors every once in a while, but it's usually because I'm working with complex curves.
Regards,
Action_N
"And though we are not now that strength which in old days moved earth and heaven, that which we are, we are; one equal temper of heroic hearts, made weak by time and fate, but strong in will to strive, to seek, to find, and not to yield."
~ Ulysses
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| Re: Supported applications, I could use a little help [message #15568 is a reply to message #9996 ] Tue, 03 August 2010 02:50 UTC |
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BRL-CAD is old good for Mechanical Engineering & true 3d.
it can be done with the mouse or keyboard or script and the documentation is quite good.
Now that means I made the walki talkie in theory so I do not know how hard other things would be...
But I would sugjest it for mechanical design that google sketchup and blender do not seem to be the right ideas for.
If their was a google sketchup piece of software that was free and open source that was easier than BRL-cad shure. but I have not seen one yet.
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| Re: Supported applications, I could use a little help [message #15580 is a reply to message #15568 ] Tue, 03 August 2010 09:09 UTC |
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@Action_N, @Drawn-Steel Hero: added, thanks!
@josheeg: looks good! Does it export to any format that we support? (STL/X3D/Collada/VRML2)
Cheers,
Bart
Community Manager Europe | Shapeways
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| Re: Supported applications, I could use a little help [message #21347 is a reply to message #9996 ] Mon, 06 December 2010 23:52 UTC |
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Hello. Shapeways looks promising! Anyway, I have Swift3D v5. I use it to produce three dimensional flash animations. The software does export to the 3DS file format. It produces a good translation from my experience. This would vastly increase your potential user base since many Flash developers use Swift3D for native file translations.
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| Re: Supported applications, I could use a little help [message #22627 is a reply to message #9996 ] Fri, 14 January 2011 15:17 UTC |
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Haven't actually tried it, but Maple mathematics software indicates that it can export a 3D graph to Collada or X3D Geometry.
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| Re: Supported applications, I could use a little help [message #23374 is a reply to message #9996 ] Wed, 02 February 2011 19:02 UTC |
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www.3dcoat.com, how can you miss it! 
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| Re: Supported applications, I could use a little help [message #25628 is a reply to message #9996 ] Mon, 04 April 2011 20:45 UTC |
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Hello Bart - the organic sculpting applications from Sensable 3D Design - Freeform and Claytools - natively export watertight stl files. Additionally, Freeform has a very powerful decimator, invaluable when working with highly detailed models.
Jennifer
Product Manager - Sensable
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| Re: Supported applications, I could use a little help [message #25644 is a reply to message #9996 ] Tue, 05 April 2011 06:28 UTC |
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Same goes for 3DCOAT, but much less expensive.
www.3dcoat.com
Sculptingsoftware
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| Re: Supported applications, I could use a little help [message #25645 is a reply to message #25644 ] Tue, 05 April 2011 06:30 UTC |
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So please update the list! 
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| Re: Supported applications, I could use a little help [message #26141 is a reply to message #25645 ] Sun, 17 April 2011 01:07 UTC |
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FYI.. if you can find Truespace 7.6.0 (not 7.6.1) it has native support for STL that works well.
Patience, Persistance, Politeness - the 3Ps will help us get us to Perfect Printed Products
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| Re: Supported applications, I could use a little help [message #26164 is a reply to message #26141 ] Mon, 18 April 2011 12:11 UTC |
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Thanks for your input, I've updated the list.
We also just released support for the OBJ file format: http://shpws.me/13TL
Any input on that would be vastly appreciated as well 
Cheers,
Bart
[Updated on: Mon, 18 April 2011 12:17 UTC]
Community Manager Europe | Shapeways
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| Re: Supported applications, I could use a little help [message #26203 is a reply to message #26164 ] Tue, 19 April 2011 12:06 UTC |
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Finally, OBJ can now be uploaded... Long time coming. Just about every programme I use supports OBJ but not every one supports each of the many others.
And FYI, ZBrush 4 supports OBJ export and with the 3D Print Exporter Plug-in also supports:
•Export in STL, Binary and Ascii.
•Export in VRML.
•Size in Inches and millimeters.
Glenn
Glenn ------ My Website Third Dimension Jewellery
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| Re: Supported applications, I could use a little help [message #26271 is a reply to message #26203 ] Wed, 20 April 2011 11:41 UTC |
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Updated, thanks!
Bart
Community Manager Europe | Shapeways
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| Re: Supported applications, I could use a little help [message #27124 is a reply to message #26271 ] Sun, 08 May 2011 21:29 UTC |
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Hi, you could list the free Rhino3D plug-in Grasshopper. Grasshopper adds a generative modeling tool to Rhino.
Cheers,
C.
http://www.grasshopper3d.com/
[Updated on: Sun, 08 May 2011 21:30 UTC]
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