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Model Train Parts [message #8779] Thu, 07 January 2010 09:32 UTC Go to next message
avatar Mark_Kendrick  is currently offline Mark_Kendrick
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G'day all,
I have had a few shipments of parts now, building up quite a selection of quality parts. A significant part of my work and hobby now revolves around Shapeways. Thanks SW! You keep costing me money Twisted Evil Very Happy

All the parts are either to 1:43.5 or 1:48 scale aka O scale.
I haven't shared photos of my items yet, so here are photos of a few of them:
http://i418.photobucket.com/albums/pp269/Burra2a/trains/RP/2010-01-07_8.jpg
O&K locomotive spark arrestor
http://i418.photobucket.com/albums/pp269/Burra2a/trains/RP/2010-01-07_9.jpg

http://i418.photobucket.com/albums/pp269/Burra2a/trains/RP/2010-01-07_12.jpg
Shay locomotive spark arrestor
http://i418.photobucket.com/albums/pp269/Burra2a/trains/RP/2010-01-07_13.jpg

http://i418.photobucket.com/albums/pp269/Burra2a/trains/RP/2010-01-07_1.jpg
Commonwealth railways NM Class driving wheel
I love the way the bronze shows up in flash photographs!

http://i418.photobucket.com/albums/pp269/Burra2a/trains/RP/2010-01-07_4.jpg
O&K counterweighted outside cranks
http://i418.photobucket.com/albums/pp269/Burra2a/trains/RP/2010-01-07_3.jpg
O&K/Krauss Sandbox
http://i418.photobucket.com/albums/pp269/Burra2a/trains/RP/2010-01-07_7.jpg
O&K locomotive Cylinders

And ordered from Shapeways member clintbellanger (http://www.shapeways.com/hisdesign?user_id=24007):
http://i418.photobucket.com/albums/pp269/Burra2a/trains/RP/2010-01-07_11.jpg
...Because you can never have enough detail parts.

EDIT: I feel the photo resolution is particularly cruel to these pieces, for those new to Shapeways, the naked eye does not see the texture.

Cheers,
Mark
Sydney, Australia

[Updated on: Thu, 07 January 2010 09:33 UTC]

Re: Model Train Parts [message #8780 is a reply to message #8779 ] Thu, 07 January 2010 12:16 UTC Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Mark,

Looks lovely! Are you making a display out of them or are they all for different uses?
Re: Model Train Parts [message #8781 is a reply to message #8780 ] Thu, 07 January 2010 12:46 UTC Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Hi Joris,
There are parts for three models shown. The three models are in the early stages of development, so I am experimenting with methods and materials.
The other materials/methods I use are photoetched brass, laser cut brass and card, vac formed styrene; and fabrications in styrene, brass and timber for whitemetal spin, brass investment and urethane casting. 3D CAD is much faster and repeatable than the handmade methods which is where SW comes in Smile
Now if SW would print silicon moulds for urethane/resin casting, and waxes for investment casting, that would be another two areas of production I'd move to The Netherlands Cool
-Mark

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Re: Model Train Parts [message #8812 is a reply to message #8779 ] Fri, 08 January 2010 15:33 UTC Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Hey, neat! I haven't seen my models in that material before.
Model maker's porn [message #10800 is a reply to message #8779 ] Mon, 15 March 2010 23:20 UTC Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I am just too excited by this item to not share it.
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http://i418.photobucket.com/albums/pp269/Burra2a/trains/RP/2010-03-16_3.jpg
http://i418.photobucket.com/albums/pp269/Burra2a/trains/RP/2010-03-16_1.jpg

It is a cow catcher from a train. The largest dimension is around 2 inches/50mm.
Usually a cowcatcher is scratchbuilt from brass, soldered together. Burnt fingers and frayed nerves Shocked
They are just so difficult to get right with all the angles.

It is so beautiful, I am thinking about doing a whole locomotive in polished SS, I have worked out I can keep it under US$600, but it would be a mantle-piece model rather than an operational one.

The texture reminds me of some trains in New Zealand which were pulled out of a river 100 years after they were dumped there, and rebuilt, with this mottled texture on every ferrous part.
Re: Model Train Parts [message #10809 is a reply to message #8779 ] Tue, 16 March 2010 11:53 UTC Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I've seen the cow catcher on the gallery a few moments ago, looks beatiful Smile May I ask how much it costs to print such a piece? How thin are the bars?
Re: Model Train Parts [message #10810 is a reply to message #10809 ] Tue, 16 March 2010 12:07 UTC Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Hello Marcus,
Thankyou.
The cow catcher is $22.00 in polished SS, $6.82 in white detail. The bars are 1mm diameter. It is very sturdy in SS.
Cheers,
Mark
Re: Model Train Parts [message #10815 is a reply to message #10810 ] Tue, 16 March 2010 13:15 UTC Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Thanks for the info Smile Good to know they'll print such large minimum detail areas.
Re: Model Train Parts [message #10883 is a reply to message #8779 ] Wed, 17 March 2010 23:59 UTC Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Arrived this morning:
http://i418.photobucket.com/albums/pp269/Burra2a/trains/RP/2010-03-18_1.jpg
http://i418.photobucket.com/albums/pp269/Burra2a/trains/RP/2010-03-18_3.jpg
http://i418.photobucket.com/albums/pp269/Burra2a/trains/RP/2010-03-18_4.jpg
http://i418.photobucket.com/albums/pp269/Burra2a/trains/RP/2010-03-18_6.jpg
http://i418.photobucket.com/albums/pp269/Burra2a/trains/RP/2010-03-18_7.jpg
I ordered two of these, the other has some blemishes that will need to be filled and smoothed
Re: Model Train Parts [message #10942 is a reply to message #8779 ] Thu, 18 March 2010 22:40 UTC Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Alumide is sexy

http://i418.photobucket.com/albums/pp269/Burra2a/trains/RP/DSC04400s.jpg

But sadly not appropriate for use as masters for moulding due to the texture. To me the texture is slightly less rough than WSF but not as smooth as the detail materials.
These will have areas picked out in metallic paints for that steampunky look.
Re: Model Train Parts [message #10948 is a reply to message #8779 ] Fri, 19 March 2010 00:38 UTC Go to previous messageGo to next message
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thats shiney, its the steamball yeah?

loved that film
Re: Model Train Parts [message #10950 is a reply to message #10948 ] Fri, 19 March 2010 00:45 UTC Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Hi Tree,
Based on the steamball, yeah. Well, actually, its based on zlwilly's interpretation http://www.shapeways.com/model/38550/steam_vessel_small___12 _.html which I tried to order but wall thickness beat it so I made my own after trying to contact zlwilly.
I changed a few things as well Smile
Re: Model Train Parts [message #11028 is a reply to message #10883 ] Mon, 22 March 2010 19:01 UTC Go to previous messageGo to next message
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http://i418.photobucket.com/albums/pp269/Burra2a/trains/RP/2010-03-18_3.jpg
The boiler looks great and the rivet head detail looks to show up clearly.

A couple of questions-
Approximately what diameter are the rivet heads?
what material is it?
The boiler is shown vertically in the shapeways render is this for any reason?

Simon.
Re: Model Train Parts [message #11034 is a reply to message #11028 ] Mon, 22 March 2010 21:55 UTC Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Hi Simon,
The material is black detail. Transparent detail seems to be finer but I've had trouble with SW's transparent detail material still being a thick gel and thus unworkable.
Rivet heads are 0.6mm dia and stand 0.4mm proud.
I'm not sure about the model orientation. Solid Edge and Shapeways don't seem to agree on which plane is horizontal.
Hope that helps,
-Mark
Re: Model Train Parts [message #12287 is a reply to message #11034 ] Thu, 29 April 2010 05:54 UTC Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I love it when it all comes together:
http://i418.photobucket.com/albums/pp269/Burra2a/trains/RP/2010-04-29_2.jpg
http://i418.photobucket.com/albums/pp269/Burra2a/trains/RP/2010-04-29_1.jpg

I'm not happy with it as a model of a train, but I am very happy with it as a proof of concept.
The only major parts not prototyped through Shapeways are the laser cut brass frames, brass axles and the soldered brass footplate.

Needs some work on clearences and bracing of the parts-both side tanks, bunker and the boiler have distorted. Some parts didn't fit so well since I had to cut them up to remove damaged sections.
But hey, looks like a steam train Smile
Re: Model Train Parts [message #12296 is a reply to message #8779 ] Thu, 29 April 2010 11:21 UTC Go to previous messageGo to next message
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WOW! Fantastic finished part. I think you should be very happy with your "proof of concept", actually very proud!

What next for you? Will we see another train model?

Todd Bailey
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[Updated on: Thu, 29 April 2010 11:21 UTC]

Re: Model Train Parts [message #12339 is a reply to message #12296 ] Fri, 30 April 2010 09:20 UTC Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Thanks for the kind words Todd,
I need to redesign a few parts of this model before it is ready for low-run production as a kit.
Afterwards there will be more trains Smile But I don't know which ones yet.
Cheers,
Mark
P.S. The 3D modelling on your website is superb!
Re: Model Train Parts [message #12344 is a reply to message #12339 ] Fri, 30 April 2010 11:19 UTC Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Thanks for your kind words.

Its fun to model the stuff in a computer, but it is a totally other thing to have something you design in a computer show up on your door step! THATS JUST DARN AMAZING!

Todd Bailey
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Re: Model Train Parts [message #13588 is a reply to message #12344 ] Fri, 11 June 2010 08:17 UTC Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Cool Mark. Thanks for sharing this lovely craft. It would be nice if you could place it on rail road layout.
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Re: Model Train Parts [message #13779 is a reply to message #8779 ] Fri, 18 June 2010 02:06 UTC Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Hi guys,

I had a good day yesterday, a cup of tea and a pair of cookies. I have this neighbor who is passionate with recreation. He climbs, swim, bikes, run, and play. So I initiate a talk by introducing him a great hobby which is model trains. At first, it seems that it's not his field, but during the middle of conversation, when I said to him that, do you know that a 63 years old is still playing with this craft, then he laughed. Laughing Before we part ways, I heard him saying, maybe I should try it.

....NOW, he's with me buying some stuff to start.
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Re: Model Train Parts [message #28026 is a reply to message #8779 ] Mon, 23 May 2011 03:10 UTC Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Been a while since I have posted anything,as I have been sending my files to be printed elsewhere.

I received my FUD samples today.
These are all for O scale.
http://i418.photobucket.com/albums/pp269/Burra2a/trains/RP/2011-05-23_9.jpg
Chopper/Norwegian couplers, on sprues to keep them together.

http://i418.photobucket.com/albums/pp269/Burra2a/trains/RP/2011-05-23_2.jpg
Pre assembled, yes all the parts do move, used 0.05mm minimum clearance on all shaft/hole locations.
They do need further development though-far too fine to work and not actually prototypical.

http://i418.photobucket.com/albums/pp269/Burra2a/trains/RP/2011-05-23_6.jpg
As others have found, FUD is awesome...when it works. An otherwise fantastic model spoiled by a shift in surface quality.

http://i418.photobucket.com/albums/pp269/Burra2a/trains/RP/2011-05-23_4.jpg
This image doesn't show it too well, but I am astounded by how fine the bottom flange on this chimney is.

I am happy that Shapeways offer FUD. SW lost my custom as the detail materials just weren't good enough. So FUD has brought a customer back...
Re: Model Train Parts [message #28030 is a reply to message #28026 ] Mon, 23 May 2011 03:43 UTC Go to previous message
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Great to see your back Mark..

Thanks for sharing


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