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Once again, UPS and Shapeways screwed me. [message #60627] Wed, 23 January 2013 22:57 UTC Go to next message
avatar lancer525  is currently offline lancer525
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First, the shipment delivery was attempted during a time frame when I was at work, and that detested little yellow slip of paper was left on the floor of my porch (NOT stuck to the door at all) saying they would attempt again BETWEEN THE HOURS OF 2 PM AND 5 PM.

I made special arrangements to be at home at 2pm, only to get a notification on my phone that the item was delivered at 1:39pm. Left on the porch. 1:39 pm is well before 2 pm.

I rush home, to find no package anywhere. Luckily, I have security cameras that record everything, and upon a review of the video, (between 1:20pm to 2:20pm) I see the UPS truck driving by on the street in front of my house at 1:33:18 pm. Not stopping. There is no video of a driver on the front porch, the side porch, in the side yard, or in the back yard. There is no package, no nothing.

I call UPS, and go through their stupid "menu" three times before I get "Bill" who tells me that the SHIPPER must be the one to initiate the trace on the package. I contact Shapeways to inform them that their precious UPS has once again failed to deliver a package, and they tell me that I now have to wait 24 hours before they can or will initiate a trace.

As a result, I responded with a demand for an immediate and full refund, and will no longer do any business with Shapeways unless or until they have greater regard for the needs and requirements of paying clients. If their "customer service" cares so little about what clients need or want, then I certainly don't care about giving them any of my hard-earned money to pay for items that I do not get. There is no legitimate reason that Shapeways must limit their shipping options to only UPS, when there are at least three other services they can use. Unless, that is, someone somewhere is getting kickbacks from UPS.

I still do not have my package. I doubt I will ever see it.

I gave them another chance. They failed.
Re: Once again, UPS and Shapeways screwed me. [message #60679 is a reply to message #60627 ] Thu, 24 January 2013 16:05 UTC Go to previous messageGo to next message
avatar jrey  is currently offline jrey
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Sorry to hear about your unfortunate circumstance but I just have to Laughing at your statements about Shapeways. They have the best customer service of any company I have ever dealt with and are willing to fix any problem that arises. I do agree that Shapeways should provide different shipping options, but I'm sure there are reasons why they use UPS. I would suspect that the amount of international shipping they do might come into play.

[Updated on: Thu, 24 January 2013 16:08 UTC]

Re: Once again, UPS and Shapeways screwed me. [message #60681 is a reply to message #60627 ] Thu, 24 January 2013 16:43 UTC Go to previous messageGo to next message
avatar GaryK  is currently offline GaryK
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lancer525,

As requested, a refund has been issued for your lost order.

Please understand that the only reason a lost package claim wasn't immediately entered into the UPS system is due to the fact that they require a 24 hour period to lapse before their systems allow these claims. I've also sent you a second response to your earlier email.

Our apologies for any inconvenience this may have caused you.

Kind Regards,
Gary
Customer Service Team

[Updated on: Thu, 24 January 2013 16:54 UTC] by Moderator


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Re: Once again, UPS and Shapeways screwed me. [message #60688 is a reply to message #60679 ] Thu, 24 January 2013 17:36 UTC Go to previous messageGo to next message
avatar stonysmith is currently online stonysmith
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Quote:

I'm sure there are reasons why they use UPS. I would suspect that the amount of international shipping they do might come into play.

Yes, Shapeways now has a production facility in New York, but a significant amount of production is still done in Eindhoven, NL

I sort of doubt that the United States Post Office offers daily pickup at an office in the Netherlands.


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Re: Once again, UPS and Shapeways screwed me. [message #60693 is a reply to message #60688 ] Thu, 24 January 2013 18:06 UTC Go to previous messageGo to next message
avatar jrey  is currently offline jrey
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Yeah, but what about FedEx, and DHL? I'm perfectly fine with UPS and have had no problems with the many things I've had delivered by them, but I do hear people complain about them from time to time.
Re: Once again, UPS and Shapeways screwed me. [message #60699 is a reply to message #60627 ] Thu, 24 January 2013 18:25 UTC Go to previous messageGo to next message
avatar Youknowwho4eva  is currently offline Youknowwho4eva
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There are logistics involved that are above my head, but there are reasons we use UPS.


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Re: Once again, UPS and Shapeways screwed me. [message #60703 is a reply to message #60627 ] Thu, 24 January 2013 18:51 UTC Go to previous messageGo to next message
avatar roofoo  is currently offline roofoo
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I completely agree with this, UPS "lost" one of my models, probably one of their employees stole it. I've also had them say a package was delivered when it was not. Fortunately I was able to get my money back but it's such a pain when you wait weeks for something and then end up not getting it. I really hope Shapeways takes its customers seriously when they ask for alternate shipping options.


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Re: Once again, UPS and Shapeways screwed me. [message #60705 is a reply to message #60703 ] Thu, 24 January 2013 19:00 UTC Go to previous messageGo to next message
avatar MitchellJetten is currently online MitchellJetten
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we are working on alternatives Smile

but unfortunately it's not just switching or offering multiple carriers.
There is a whole process involved, like invoices (from SW to carrier), distribution center workflow (which package goes to which carrier) etc. etc.

Bear with us, there will be an alternative!


Kind regards,

Mitchell Jetten
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Re: Once again, UPS and Shapeways screwed me. [message #60707 is a reply to message #60705 ] Thu, 24 January 2013 19:08 UTC Go to previous messageGo to next message
avatar mkroeker  is currently offline mkroeker
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Print bad-ass big catapult, chuck parcels across the border to those unruly Canadians ? (At least the packaging
should be sturdy enough for this, I suspect shapeways is actually a decoy for some heinous plan that revolves around
distribution of some gaseous substance...)
Re: Once again, UPS and Shapeways screwed me. [message #60709 is a reply to message #60703 ] Thu, 24 January 2013 19:19 UTC Go to previous messageGo to next message
avatar stop4stuff  is currently offline stop4stuff
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If I had not been on the ball with my last delivery, I feel that I may have been in the same situation.

I saw the UPS van pull out of our road (a private non-through-way) and called UPS, 20 minutes later the tracking was logged as a missed package even though I was told that the delivery could happen upto 7pm - my delivery turned up the next day.

Paul
Re: Once again, UPS and Shapeways screwed me. [message #60716 is a reply to message #60709 ] Thu, 24 January 2013 20:06 UTC Go to previous messageGo to next message
avatar mkroeker  is currently offline mkroeker
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OK, I also had one "miscarriage" where the parcel was originally delivered to a different business
somewhere across town. Guess this can happen with any parcel service - the only disconcerting thing
was that the UPS page listed my parcel as "delivered", stating only the (obviously unfamiliar) name
of the person who accepted it and no address. Things got sorted out even before UPS customer service
got back to me.
The situation appears to be far worse in Canada (but still I am not sure if we really need to have this topic
come up every other week in whatever forum the victim of the day chooses to vent his anger)
Re: Once again, UPS and Shapeways screwed me. [message #60721 is a reply to message #60716 ] Thu, 24 January 2013 20:21 UTC Go to previous messageGo to next message
avatar stop4stuff  is currently offline stop4stuff
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If a person feels the need to have their say about a situation that has been going on for a while, then let them have their say.

It is not alot different to the countless posts about bounding boxes, scale, file formats etc... etc... etc...

Anyone can use the search function on the forums and add to what has been said before, but sometimes a point that many people feel strongly about may need to be repeated over (and over and over) to maybe get the point across and hope that comeone caring will take up the case to find a solution.

Paul
Re: Once again, UPS and Shapeways screwed me. [message #60728 is a reply to message #60721 ] Thu, 24 January 2013 21:11 UTC Go to previous message
avatar Whystler  is currently offline Whystler
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I've had a lot of frustration with UPS .. so much so that I got tired of complaining about it. I guess if you get slapped in the face enough times, you take the next slap without a flinch.

But I did find the problem exponentially minimized when I got a post office box. I actually got my post office box at the UPS Store (which, by the way, is not run by UPS .. it just licenses out the name). I have to say that my experience with UPS store for use of the PO box and also for their printing services, has been really good.

I no longer have a box at the UPS store, simply because I wasn't using it as frequently due to a number of factors. So, I guess I'll have to hold my breath and hope that UPS does well by me on my next delivery *or* at least use it as a venting excuse to yell at a UPS clerk on the phone Wink

-Whystler

[Updated on: Thu, 24 January 2013 21:12 UTC]


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