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More Test Jewelery! [message #5373] Fri, 24 July 2009 06:09 UTC Go to next message
avatar MaxSMoke777  is currently offline MaxSMoke777
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Woot! I got my new plastic Jewelery samples yesterday and I've painted up a few to show what they will hopefully look like, when and if they get approved for Steel printing:

This Crone Pendant. It's designed to hold Star Sapphires in such a way that enhances their mystical appearance, rather then distracting from them. Each star looks a bit like an eye, so using them as eyeballs made sense. And I wanted them to dominate the appearance of the pendent, so each eye was made to be HUGE. The design is much like old Folk Art. Out of all of my test drawings this shape looked best, and I worked on enhancing it to really bring out the feel. It's both whimsical, and a bit frightening. Two things I LOVE!

As you can see, I painted one with black and silver, to approximate what I hope a Silver or Steel version will look like eventually:
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3534/3750823121_009b127d40.jpg?v=0

This is what it looks like with the two blue Star Sapphires I have, loosely slotted into the eye sockets. Eventually, when I do get a metal version, this is hopefully what the finished product will look like:
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3428/3751614370_f1587b1c69.jpg?v=0

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3464/3751614094_d243dd9bf1.jpg?v=0

This is a rendering of the model, just for reference:
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2493/3704266674_9609da3843.jpg?v=0

This is my second ring I've developed. I call it the Eldritch Ring, based on my paintings of the same name:
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2443/3751617710_18ec5cd636.jpg?v=0

I drew it out on paper, making sure the edges would be continuous, and then extruded it as a flat model. Then I used the Bend function to warp the entire shape into a ring, and backed the ring with another Tube for support, since the parts of the shape didn't always connect completely. This is the 2D template I drew for myself:
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3139/3751685584_8c024831c2.jpg?v=0

This is painted, WSF version, next to Transparent and White Detailed versions. I made them to see if there was a difference in detail or smoothness. I don't really think there is:
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2664/3751617522_599406b236.jpg?v=0

Here's a slightly blurry picture of what it should look like on the hand:
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2086/3751617616_c1bf8762bc.jpg?v=0

This is the simplest of the jewelery samples I made, the Hand Ring. I made this to hold small, perfectly round, Cabochon-Cut gems, about 12mm in size. I actually had a version designed to hold 6mm at first, but the finger size was far too small and all of my 4 samples arrived with busted digits. The 12mm version though has very strong fingers:
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2608/3751619344_b5a4b6e2aa.jpg?v=0

I don't currently have a loose 12mm stone, but here's a blurry picture of what the ring should look like when done in metal. You'll have to mentally picture the stone in the hands, lol:
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2582/3751619196_6618188914.jpg?v=0

I also got a larger version of my Pen Dragon, but I'll hold off showing him off until he's painted. Besides, he's not really jewelery, so much as statuette... or paperweight. Wink

[Updated on: Fri, 24 July 2009 06:09 UTC]

Re: More Test Jewelery! [message #5374 is a reply to message #5373 ] Fri, 24 July 2009 12:27 UTC Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I really like the star sapphire for the eyes. Does the star move based on the observer? I like the way they look in the first pic, but in the second they look uneven. I like the hands ring, I had a ring years ago that was two hands that interlock, and when you took the ring off you could separate them. I think your ring would look real nice with a clear glass sphere in there.


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Re: More Test Jewelery! [message #5381 is a reply to message #5374 ] Fri, 24 July 2009 15:42 UTC Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Max,

All of these are super cool and innovative designs. It's nice to see them!

I appreciate the crone pendant because of its mix of a skull look with one of those long nosed commedia del arte masks. It's an excellent interpretation of the spirit of the crone, especially with the addition of the sapphires.

The hands ring - very cool design - new. It will be nice to see with something between the hands.

The other ring design is a nice piece too. I used a similar process in the greenman bead, and the christmas gnomes to get relief definition. I'm glad to see you've discovered it too, and used it so artfully.

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Re: More Test Jewelery! [message #5391 is a reply to message #5381 ] Fri, 24 July 2009 17:17 UTC Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Whoa, the Hands ring is wickedly cool.

Have you though about using your Shapeways models for Investment casting? Not the models themselves but making a wax casting from them? I have pondered it a bit but haven't actuall investigated it too much.
Re: More Test Jewelery! [message #5400 is a reply to message #5391 ] Fri, 24 July 2009 20:24 UTC Go to previous messageGo to next message
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That's something I have been looking into myself.

I was actually wondering about the Metal Printing that Shapeways offers whether you could invert your Model, and CREATE a mold in metal as a model. Then you would be set...


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Re: More Test Jewelery! [message #5402 is a reply to message #5400 ] Fri, 24 July 2009 20:37 UTC Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I've pondered the same... but not with metal. I figured to make a wax casting, you wouldn't need metal to start with. Just a nice shell. But I know about as much about metal casting to fill a thimble...

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Re: More Test Jewelery! [message #5403 is a reply to message #5402 ] Fri, 24 July 2009 20:52 UTC Go to previous messageGo to next message
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me too... I followed your metalcasting link and liked it. I hope to play one day with it, but for now, I'm still learning 3D Modeling... chuckle


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Re: More Test Jewelery! [message #5404 is a reply to message #5403 ] Fri, 24 July 2009 21:11 UTC Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Well, I have that going for me. 10+ years of blender. Betcha someone here is doing it.
Re: More Test Jewelery! [message #5405 is a reply to message #5404 ] Sat, 25 July 2009 02:45 UTC Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Technically, plastic can be burnt out of a mold. But a nasty smell ensues. If your caster is properly ventilated, they may consent.

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Re: More Test Jewelery! [message #5406 is a reply to message #5405 ] Sat, 25 July 2009 04:20 UTC Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I had thought of that, but a $80 or so Shapeways model vs. $0.50 worth of wax leads me to suddenly be Mr. Miser. hehe.

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Re: More Test Jewelery! [message #5448 is a reply to message #5373 ] Mon, 27 July 2009 20:12 UTC Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Darn, looks like I should have subscribed to my own thread! I didn't know anybody relied!

The Star in a Star Sapphire doesn't really follow you so much as the light reflected off of them. So the eyes don't always line up. It depending on the angle. At a distance the angles tend to be more forgiving.

As for the Hand Ring, it's designed to hold a 12mm, 6mm thick, Cabochon-cut stone. I've already ordered another Star Sapphire (I love those things!) to fit inside the hands. Of course, I don't have a metal version, but I can test it for fit with plastic. Metal will be just a bit tighter. If it's too tight, I'll have to scale it up a bit.

Joris is checking over my models to see if they can be printed in Steel. It's not quite as nice as Silver, but Silver seems to be quite a bit more difficult to check, so I think Steel is what I'm going to have to go with. As long as it's hypoallergenic, any metal will be fine.

I have been trying to get a casting setup going myself, but so far, no luck. I need to find replacement crucibles for a centrifical force caster, who's manufactor went out of buisness 10 years ago. Back to Ebay, I guess.
Re: More Test Jewelery! [message #5453 is a reply to message #5448 ] Mon, 27 July 2009 20:46 UTC Go to previous messageGo to next message
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That hand-ring would be sooo cool in metal with a gem in the middle. I noticed it is two right hands, I guess a R/L version would have a thumb pointing down into the wearer's finger!
Re: More Test Jewelery! [message #5454 is a reply to message #5448 ] Mon, 27 July 2009 21:07 UTC Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I thought a crucible was a fairly generic little cup looking thing? Do you need a specific one for your setup?

Post pictures! Several of us are curious about going from Shapeways to Metal Casting.

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Re: More Test Jewelery! [message #5458 is a reply to message #5373 ] Mon, 27 July 2009 21:35 UTC Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I need a centrifugal casting crucible. Centrifugally casting involves spinning your cast around very fast, using the force generated by the spinning to force the metal down into every possible crevice. Any unfilled spots will ruin small jewelery.

As you might imagine, anything that spins well being filled with molten metal represents an extreme danger to your home, your lawn, your face. So the crucible must be specifically designed for your caster.

I think I might have found one that fits, actually. More testing required...

@ Gibell:
I used the same hand on the hands ring for symmetry. I could have used right and left hands, but I didn't like the look. It's cool that you noticed though.
Re: More Test Jewelery! [message #5462 is a reply to message #5373 ] Mon, 27 July 2009 22:47 UTC Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I love the hands ring!
Re: More Test Jewelery! [message #5641 is a reply to message #5373 ] Sun, 02 August 2009 22:29 UTC Go to previous message
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I just received a Star Sapphire large enough to fit into the hands of the Hand Ring. I pressed it into the hands of the plastic version and it holds reasonably well. Of course, when I get a metal version, I will ask a Jeweler to solder the gem in place permanently. The gem cost $70, so I don't want to lose it. Here's some pictures...

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3546/3779358449_6124ecf1a6.jpg

I designed the ring to hold a perfectly round stone, but it holds this oval nicely. Also, I didn't want to spend double the price in carats for a fully round one!

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2437/3779358539_3de028a45a.jpg

As you can see here, if the light angle is off, the star moves out of view:

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2616/3779358355_d1f2161d95.jpg

Just case you were curious, this is where I buy all of my loose stones from.

http://www.gemselect.com

Their prices are good and the pictures of each stone are reasonably honest. They don't doctor the photos, but their lighting is a bit better then you're likely to see in the real-world. All the stones I've received have been somewhat dimmer then their photos would suggest. They also tell you if the stones have been treated, and they don't hide the flaws.

It's the best site I've found so far, but if anyone knows of any others, I'd like to know.

 
   
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