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| Re: Scale Model Library [message #48849 is a reply to message #48769 ] Thu, 24 May 2012 13:55 UTC |
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Is it feasible to make these smaller, and print them in FUD? Even though the material costs more, every time you halve the linear dimensions, you get a reduction to 1/8 the volume (and cost).
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| Re: Scale Model Library [message #48851 is a reply to message #48849 ] Thu, 24 May 2012 15:54 UTC |
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| tessman wrote on Thu, 24 May 2012 13:55 | Is it feasible to make these smaller, and print them in FUD? Even though the material costs more, every time you halve the linear dimensions, you get a reduction to 1/8 the volume (and cost).
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First: thse are good looking models. But.. for shrinking, it all depends upon what scale you want to shrink them down to.
Many of the items shown have parts that have an apparent thicknes of around 1 inch (shelves, chair legs, etc). In general, that translates to 1:38 scale in FUD (1 inch = 0.6mm)
If you want to go down to the common Model Train scales of 1:87 (HO) or 1:160 (N), then you have to have thicker parts. Unfortunately, that means re-designing the items, usually pretty much from scratch.
Patience, Persistance, Politeness - the 3Ps will help us get us to Perfect Printed Products
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| Re: Scale Model Library [message #48866 is a reply to message #48862 ] Thu, 24 May 2012 18:57 UTC |
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sidnaique,
I don't think I'm a potential customer (I'm more drawn to the abstract), but I'm glad my suggestion was helpful.
Larry
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| Re: Scale Model Library [message #50890 is a reply to message #48851 ] Fri, 06 July 2012 04:59 UTC |
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| stonysmith wrote on Thu, 24 May 2012 15:54 | If you want to go down to the common Model Train scales of 1:87 (HO) or 1:160 (N), then you have to have thicker parts. Unfortunately, that means re-designing the items, usually pretty much from scratch.
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Stony,
As an example, for 1:87 scale, what standard wall thickness do you suggest for a model?
Noel
[Updated on: Fri, 06 July 2012 05:00 UTC]
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| Re: Scale Model Library [message #50892 is a reply to message #48862 ] Fri, 06 July 2012 05:05 UTC |
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Sidnaique:-
The international standard for Dolls Houses is 1inch/1foot (1/12), and now too, a big following in 1/24th.
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| Re: Scale Model Library [message #50904 is a reply to message #50890 ] Fri, 06 July 2012 11:40 UTC |
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| Phxman wrote on Fri, 06 July 2012 04:59 | Stony,
As an example, for 1:87 scale, what standard wall thickness do you suggest for a model?
Noel
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For this chair in particular, the minimum "supporting wire" thickness in FUD is 0.6mm
At 1:220, that is 5.2 inches thick (scale).
At 1:160, that is 3.7 inches thick (scale).
At 1:87, that is 2.1 inches thick (scale).
So in HO (1:87), your chair leg must be at least 2.1 inches thick, where, as I noted, yours is aparently only 1 inch thick.
The back of the chair can be considered a "wall", and could be down as thin as 0.3mm, so it can be half that thick.
Just keep in mind, that "thin wires" are VERY fragile in FUD.. Several of my models such as http://shpws.me/3UfZ have arrived with every one of the smokestacks snapped off due to shipping. (they are 6 inches thick or 0.69mm)
That is why I packaged these http://shpws.me/3UfN with the wheel struts to the inside.. every one of them arrived unbroken.
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What is very surprising about FUD is how both strong and fragile it is. At 0.3mm.. if you breathe on it, it'll break, but this model: http://shpws.me/3Ufh is nearly 2mm thick everywhere and I'd dare say that it'd support 15 pounds of weight or more with no damage.
Patience, Persistance, Politeness - the 3Ps will help us get us to Perfect Printed Products
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| Re: Scale Model Library - Update [message #50919 is a reply to message #48769 ] Fri, 06 July 2012 13:51 UTC |
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Thanks everyone for the discussion. I am getting to learn a lot.
@ Phxman:-
Thanks a lot for the information.
After trying a lot of possibilities, I have reached a scale of approx. 1:39(1 inch:1 meter) for my models. Below this scale I am forced to inflate the details, loose the proportions, etc. I dint like the idea because I want to build a library of 'Detailed' scale models.
I am also keeping in mind the sets for Stop Motion Animation Projects where details are more important than the size and the models require paint job.
So I have fixed the scale of 1:39 as the minimum scale for now and will reduce only if requested. Also the wall thickness of all these models is always above 1mm(Very safe even for less expensive plastics and comfortable to paint over) and only in few cases it goes below 1mm but is above 0.8mm at any cost.
Here is an update of some new models and couple of old ones which I have worked on(I have worked on all my models and made them 1:39 with 1mm minimum wall thickness but dint include them in the update)
(Please continue the discussion about scale modeling and 3d Printing here, I am learning a lot. )
Thank you all,
sid naique.
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