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Need 3D of Gear Sphere [message #43362] Thu, 02 February 2012 23:42 UTC Go to next message
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Hello,

I'm looking for someone to make me a copy of the gear sphere seen in these links.

see the item here in youtube video:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Ta4ZsWLon0&feature=email


Here you can find a download file to make this object (papercraft)
however, the file is a .pdo file
I only have Macs...and this file can only be used with Windows.

link to .pdo file
http://guru2.karakasa.com/gear_sphere/gear_sphere_e.html


looking to have someone recreate this object- but in a file format that I can send to Shapeways to "grow this".

please contact me if you can help.
Turn around time- looking to do this pretty quickly

[Updated on: Thu, 02 February 2012 23:43 UTC]

Re: Need 3D of Gear Sphere [message #43368 is a reply to message #43362 ] Fri, 03 February 2012 00:56 UTC Go to previous messageGo to next message
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http://www.shapeways.com/forum/index.php?t=rview&goto=23 443&th=4486#msg_23443
http://sketchup.google.com/3dwarehouse/details?mid=22780b9ae 70642f56de25cd03f161cf2
Edit. Download the model.
http://taffgoch.deviantart.com/#/d41pt63

[Updated on: Fri, 03 February 2012 01:11 UTC]


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Re: Need 3D of Gear Sphere [message #43369 is a reply to message #43368 ] Fri, 03 February 2012 02:06 UTC Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Thanks for that
this could be of use for me as well....

but looking to create exact copy of the version I listed links for

Re: Need 3D of Gear Sphere [message #43371 is a reply to message #43369 ] Fri, 03 February 2012 03:26 UTC Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Just tried to upload the file to Shapeways...
can not make the gearshphere posted by JACANT

email from shapeways..
We just finished processing your product, Gears92, and ran a few checks on it to make sure your product can be printed.


Unfortunately, we were not able to process and thus print your product. The error message was:
Our Mesh Medic could not fix/unify your product in time.

We have already tried correcting the issue using our Mesh Medic.
Re: Need 3D of Gear Sphere [message #43404 is a reply to message #43371 ] Fri, 03 February 2012 19:36 UTC Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I forgot to ask, exactly what size do you want? If it is anything like the size in the video it will be very expensive.
I can't promise I will finish it , but i will have a tinker with it over the weekend.


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Re: Need 3D of Gear Sphere [message #43418 is a reply to message #43404 ] Fri, 03 February 2012 22:54 UTC Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Does not have to be the same size.

I'm new to the whole 3D print world....
what kind of price are we talking about (if we were to match size)?

Re: Need 3D of Gear Sphere [message #43422 is a reply to message #43418 ] Fri, 03 February 2012 23:58 UTC Go to previous messageGo to next message
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The model I have partly made is based on a 100mm sphere, as you can see I still have to create the large gears. The small gear needs tweaking and I have not done any way of attaching the gears to the base. All the pieces so far are hollow with a 1mm thick wall, to try to keep the price down. I still can't promise to finish it as we have family over for the weekend.
I told you it would be expensive, the model in pepakura is H220 W180 D181 so you can imagine the price at that size.

index.php?t=getfile&id=14240&private=0

[Updated on: Fri, 03 February 2012 23:59 UTC]


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Re: Need 3D of Gear Sphere [message #43480 is a reply to message #43422 ] Sun, 05 February 2012 13:12 UTC Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Do the gears have to be removeable? If so it means more work to design a device for keeping the gears in place.


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Re: Need 3D of Gear Sphere [message #43501 is a reply to message #43480 ] Sun, 05 February 2012 20:13 UTC Go to previous messageGo to next message
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no the gears dont have to be removeable. If by that you mean detach from the large sphere shape.

they must function by turning
Re: Need 3D of Gear Sphere [message #43514 is a reply to message #43501 ] Mon, 06 February 2012 00:35 UTC Go to previous messageGo to next message
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This has been designed with a .25mm gap between all parts so it should be moveable. It should also come apart. To keep the gears in place I have left a hole through the gears to affix to the shell. all parts are hollow with a 1mm wall.

http://www.shapeways.com/model/463131/gear_sphere.html?gid=s g92456

index.php?t=getfile&id=14296&private=0

[Updated on: Mon, 06 February 2012 00:53 UTC]


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Re: Need 3D of Gear Sphere [message #43568 is a reply to message #43514 ] Mon, 06 February 2012 20:06 UTC Go to previous messageGo to next message
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UPDATE
I have had advice from 'Service' :-
"I just checked your model, and there are several issues with the model.
The first thing is the tolerance between the parts, 0.25mm is not enough for the length you have used, there is a high risk of the model getting fused together.
And if this does not happen, the powder is stuck as we cannot clean very well between those parts."

So back to the 'drawing board'. I will try to cut down on the volume.The parts will come separate, to be assembled by the buyer.

[Updated on: Mon, 06 February 2012 22:50 UTC]


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Re: Need 3D of Gear Sphere [message #43650 is a reply to message #43568 ] Wed, 08 February 2012 01:25 UTC Go to previous messageGo to next message
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ok please keep me posted

Re: Need 3D of Gear Sphere [message #43663 is a reply to message #43650 ] Wed, 08 February 2012 11:05 UTC Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Job Done. When assembled I have left a 2mm hole in the top of the gears to attach them to the 1.5mm x 6mm deep hole in the frame. I could create a 'plug' to go in this, but being so small they would get lost in the production process. See photo 2 for how the parts will be printed.
http://www.shapeways.com/model/463131/gear_sphere.html?gid=s g92456
Looking at the configuration on the video it is only possible to have three large gears.

[Updated on: Wed, 08 February 2012 11:09 UTC]


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Re: Need 3D of Gear Sphere [message #43692 is a reply to message #43663 ] Wed, 08 February 2012 21:07 UTC Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Looks good

I see we have to put this together. Which is not an issue.
however, how would we attach the gears to the framework?

Looking at the configuration on the video it is only possible to have three large gears. 


not sure what you mean by this. I do know the version I sent- the sphere is not complete. A gear or 2 is missing. Is this what you are saying?
Re: Need 3D of Gear Sphere [message #43703 is a reply to message #43692 ] Wed, 08 February 2012 23:39 UTC Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I was thinking something in the line of a small pin or screw to fix the gears in place.
There is only one configuration for the gears to work.
Three large and nine small gears, which ever way you look at it.
index.php?t=getfile&id=14424&private=0

  • Attachment: gears.png
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Re: Need 3D of Gear Sphere [message #43704 is a reply to message #43703 ] Wed, 08 February 2012 23:44 UTC Go to previous messageGo to next message
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is this a complete sphere of gears?

or, is at as seen in the sample video...with a section of gears missing?
Can't tell from the 3d pics you have sent.
Re: Need 3D of Gear Sphere [message #43706 is a reply to message #43704 ] Wed, 08 February 2012 23:53 UTC Go to previous messageGo to next message
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It is a complete sphere as previous image shows. The frame has 12 sides. Having 3 large and 9 small gears.
Here is one more image from a different angle.
index.php?t=getfile&id=14425&private=0

  • Attachment: gear.png
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[Updated on: Thu, 09 February 2012 00:00 UTC]


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Re: Need 3D of Gear Sphere [message #43707 is a reply to message #43706 ] Thu, 09 February 2012 00:01 UTC Go to previous messageGo to next message
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ok thanks for clearing that up

I would be able to use the complete sphere.

are you able to make one that has the gears missing? As seen in the sample video. As this is what I'm after the most.
Re: Need 3D of Gear Sphere [message #43709 is a reply to message #43707 ] Thu, 09 February 2012 00:06 UTC Go to previous messageGo to next message
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No problem, That should bring the price down.
How many gears do you want.
I will just upload a new file with less gears, but keep the full set in case anybody else wants it.
Looking at the video again it looks like 3 large and 6 small gears.

[Updated on: Thu, 09 February 2012 00:09 UTC]


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Re: Need 3D of Gear Sphere [message #43713 is a reply to message #43709 ] Thu, 09 February 2012 00:12 UTC Go to previous messageGo to next message
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great thank

please keep the full sphere. As I will order one of those as well.

lets go with that 3 large and 6 small

thanks!
Re: Need 3D of Gear Sphere [message #44480 is a reply to message #43703 ] Sat, 25 February 2012 21:10 UTC Go to previous messageGo to next message
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JACANT wrote on Wed, 08 February 2012 23:39

I was thinking something in the line of a small pin or screw to fix the gears in place.
There is only one configuration for the gears to work.
Three large and nine small gears, which ever way you look at it.
index.php?t=getfile&id=14424&private=0




what size pin or screw is needed to hold gears in place?

how many will you need to complete the sphere?

item should be shipping soon

[Updated on: Sat, 25 February 2012 21:11 UTC]

Re: Need 3D of Gear Sphere [message #44484 is a reply to message #44480 ] Sat, 25 February 2012 23:57 UTC Go to previous messageGo to next message
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As I stated before, "When assembled I have left a 2mm hole in the top of the gears to attach them to the 1.5mm x 6mm deep hole in the frame"
Maybe you could use something like a 'drawing pin' to attach the gears, It would only need slight pressure to fix them. you would need one for each gear. To create 'pins' to fit would be too small and would get lost in production.
Don't forget when assembling the gears the texture of WSF is quite coarse, so the gears should work more loose with use for a smoother turn. If need be the 'axles' what the gears attach to might need slight sanding. Don't force them on, the gap is only 0.5mm.
Keep me posted.


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Re: Need 3D of Gear Sphere [message #45477 is a reply to message #44484 ] Wed, 14 March 2012 05:03 UTC Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Items arrived.

Having some issues attaching the gears. But thinking that drilling a small hole...would allow for a small screw to attach the gears.

As I have tried small pins, stick pins, push pins and other items. None of them secure the gears in place.

Other than that it looks great.

would you be able to send me over the design file?
or, can you contact me and we can discuss this further( off the forum)

thanks!
Re: Need 3D of Gear Sphere [message #45478 is a reply to message #43362 ] Wed, 14 March 2012 05:17 UTC Go to previous message
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sorry forgot to add

what would the cost be for a 11 inch size ball?

 
   
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