Home » Support » Bug Reporting » new model page
Search Search  
 () 3 Vote(s)
Show: Today's Messages    Show Polls    Message Navigator
new model page [message #34326] Fri, 16 September 2011 06:35 UTC Go to next message
avatar stop4stuff  is currently offline stop4stuff
Messages: 3168
Registered: June 2010
Go to my shop
Shapie Expert
+++++ 1) Would prefer edit page to default set as 'on'
[edit] Thought this was fixed, but it turns out that after the first page has been switched to edit, the rest in My Designs are edit by default.
[edit #2] Looks like someone is messing about on the live website with these settings - Now the page view reverts to edit view as soon as the page has finished loading.
[edit #3] The page switching only seems to happen with private models and for sale models e.g. when I am logged in, http://www.shapeways.com/model/335454/e6c0bb47c47238bf52fa06 a95f884215/100mm_cube.html?gid=ug takes me to the public page, I click edit, and then try to 'un-edit' - the link looks like
http://www.shapeways.com/model/335454/100mm_cube.html and after a double page load takes me back to the edit page.

Fixed 2) When setting edit page to on - IE8.0 requests for a font to be temporarily downloaded (but it doesn't when edit is set to off) <-- this is due to Prompt for Font Download in the security settings, but still leaves the question, why does the edit page use an extra font?

+++++ 3) Link to interactive 3D view needs to be more visable and with notation of what it does.

IE8.0 no 3D link,
Firefox - 3D viewer fixed
Chrome - 3D viewer fixed

++++ 4) Area imediately below 'slideshow' looks cluttered.
4a) A short, one line, description is lost and near on invisable.

+ 5) Asthetics - the colours of the right side panels look wrong (too much green with the blues)

Fixed 6) A model with & in the title has the & displayed as &amp;

7) the model title has gone from the edit page address - not sure what implications this has fo those previously using full links - not really an issue

Fixed 8) No way to add model to shop categories

++++ 9) Comments disproportionately sized

10) Shortened Shapeways URL missing

Fixed 11) occasional 'Fatal Error' where slideshow should be

Fixed 12) no reason for two dates on updated models model filenames and updates show on model edit page

Fixed 13) option to remove own comments has disapeared... well not quite - the option is on the public page view, but the page needs to be refreshed for the 'delete' option to appear.

Fixed 14) Crappy and unnecessary image cropping.

Fixed 15) Pricing visable for NOT FOR SALE items - this is a big no-no! - see also 28)

++++ 16) Description editing format does not stick - if I use return to seperate lines of text, I want it that way, so why remove them and make a mess of what I typed? Though HTML formatting does work.

Fixed 17) Because of 16, there is no space between the description text and my user image - looks cluttered.

+++ 18) Number of page views has disapeared.

++ 19) Why are the units of measurement on the upload pane now two clicks away?

+++ 20) No obvious way to delete a model.
Model can be deleted from 'My Designs'
Delete button on edit page would still be useful.

++++ 21) Models pricing should be transparent - pricing for EU countries should show the VAT included in the price and not come as a added on price in the shopping cart.
21 a) VAT should be shown on the edit page to allow sellers to price including VAT.

Semi-fixed 22) Models that can be downloaded are now corrupt. A workaround is in place. The model file was being corrupt by an extra character added to the begining of the file. Now the model file is in a Zip folder, and the extra character is added to the Zip.
22a) The edit page tells me the name of the uploaded file is "100mm cube.stl", upon download, the filename has changed to "original-335454_v4.stl"

+++ 23) Own Models cannot be downloaded without first enabling model download (but are still corrupt anyway.)

+++++ 24) Item title should be above the image box... afterall it is the title of the model!

+++++ 25) Scrolling down to read the description takes the viewer away from the most important button - Add to Cart - the page should be set up to lead the potential buyer to that button.

Fixed 26) Missing analytics tracking code on model pages.

++++ 27) Materials selector on edit page is now a jumble. The convenient remove all materials button has gone and so has the materials grouping.

+++++ 28) There is no option to remove the default material. (remove it all together, not change it) - see #52 (co-creator reverts to default meterial).

+++++ 29) The link that used to take you straight to the model in the inventory management is now gone.

++++ 30) CSS errors that need validating/fixing.

+++++ 31) Update model process does not work properly - same model, same units gives a non-printable model due to size <- I have been informed that this issue is unrelated to the new model page, but it is still an issue that needs fixing.

++++ 32) Compulsorary reason for model update is not necessary and adds to workflow.

FIxed 33) If for whatever reason a viewer has a browser window narrower than the page, there is no sideways scroll option

+++++ 34) Currency on the model page should be what the logged-in user has chosen as their curreny.

+++++ 35) Country should be detected and assigned the correct currency for locale for non-logged-in users.

Fixed 36) Logo to right of description (Shop logo?) is not what the shop owner uploded - it is stretched and looks wrong. - its gone, but will it be back it its old place?

+++++ 37) Description editing is very poor - move the mouse pointer over another part of the page that takes focus away results in the description reverting back to what it was before any changes were made.
37a)Previous description can't be edited :(

++++ 38) Once in edit mode in the description box, the text area and the OK button backbround are indistinguishable - leads to multiple clicks and frustration.

FIxed 39) Uploading a new image show no progress, and no indication of successful completion.

++++ 40) Upon successful upload of new image, image should be shown.

+++++ 41) Clicking on new image title to edit is fine, but why on earth does the title revert back to the default model title upon clicking the description of the new image??? - (it may be habit to hit return after a paragraph, but it is not intuitive to hit return after filling in a pseudo text box)

+++++ 42) The whole description should be visable, neat and tidy - a visitor to your home would not be expected to take off their shoes AND put them in a cupboard, so why must visitors to OUR product pages be expected to click on a camoflaged link to read the rest of the description?
^ Ithought this was fixed... but the I went to the public view and hey presto a comflaged [+ More info] button where my test should be :( (it's not info, but my description)

++++ 43) Permalink (shortened Shapeways link) - two clicks to get to a point where the link can be copied is unnecessary - as a simple <a href=> tag is all thats needed, right click, then copy shortcut... job done.

++++ 44) Edit page and changing availability can be made into one link.

++++ 45) Radio button for default material is easier to understand and more visable than a blue triangle on the edit page.
45a) Sloppy coding includes the same 205 characters 25 times (once for each material) when a simple 'Make default material' instruction just once would do.

Fixed 46) What's happened to my image next to the comment box?

47) Digging around in the source code for the model page, I found;
<meta name='keywords' content='Array, stop4stuff' lang="en" />

Two things, not proper keywords for the page and an abitary / added
What's that all about?

+++++ 48) Uploading images not compatible with all browsers, see; http://www.shapeways.com/forum/index.php?t=msg&th=6510&a mp;a mp;a mp;a mp;a mp;a mp;a mp;a mp;a mp;start=0&

Fixed 49) Google Analytics not working

++++ 50) Units not clear as to what the dimensions refer to.

+++++ 51) Price shown is different between model page and co-create (personalise) page.
e.g. http://www.shapeways.com/model/347130/ (model page) shows €6.96 for WSF, but http://www.shapeways.com/cocreator/customize?model=347130&am p;am p;am p;am p;am p;am p;material=62 (customise page) shows € 9.15 for WSF

+++++ 52) When heading to the personalise page, the material selector automatically reverts back to the material that's set as the default, not the material that was selected on the model page.

++++ 53)

Happens in IE8.0 and Firefox. (WinXP) - not tried Chrome. - When not logged in and viewing a model page, a load of code appears at the bottom of the page.

index.php?t=getfile&id=11312&private=0

+++ 54) For private models, in edit mode, the shop sections are not shown and thus are not selectable.





++++++++++++++++++++++

One of the biggest requests is to change the model page back to what it was.

++++++++++++++++++++++

(loads of +'s)




* Choice of currency is not persistant... I'm UK but use USD

* No obvious way to change pricing. (umm... I think I found it but see below

* Clicking on 'Update materials and pricing' goes to a blank page...
Even after changing the pricing, and 'updating', and going back to the model page, the pricing remains as it was originally (and yes I did refresh the page too)


* Changing model availability and clicking 'update' goes to a blank page. Changes are not made.

*These issues cost me a day of messing about trying to fix things on my PC, but were caused by corrupt serverside information.

[Updated on: Mon, 17 October 2011 06:37 UTC]

Re: new model page [message #34328 is a reply to message #34326 ] Fri, 16 September 2011 06:52 UTC Go to previous messageGo to next message
avatar Charmed_Life_Designs  is currently offline Charmed_Life_Designs
Messages: 118
Registered: February 2010
Go to my shop
Senior Member
Mind if I piggyback on your topic to give my own feedback? Seems a little nicer than spamming the announcement forum with all of this. It isn't as nicely numbered or as short and sweet as yours... Embarassed

I'm not generally very active on the forums... Usually I just lurk and post in "It's Arrived" when one of my orders comes in, but I would like to chime in on the new interface, simply because I find myself forming very strong opinions about it...

From the customer's point of view, it's ok. From a shopowner's point of view... Well... It could be better.

You guys changed a lot of stuff! Now, usually, I'm ok to poke around things and find where everything is, but this new interface isn't very intuitive. Having everything in one place and having it labeled clearly was awesome. Now I have to click an "edit page" button just to, well, edit things? Generally, I expect to have edit access to my models simply by virtue of them being my models. I don't need a toggle switch to add an extra step to the workflow of adding a new model. I appreciate the toggle as a customer preview of sorts, but can we at least have "edit mode" enabled by default?

Editing fields is a bit confusing. It took me a while to figure out that the title WAS the editing field for the title, and the same with the description. A "Title:" box, or even just coloring those fields something other than white to make them stand would greatly improve this.

The comments box... Ugh, please turn down the font size. Please. It's way too big. It looks like it's screaming. Or like it's designed for old folks who have trouble reading small type. Please. There's no reason to have it quite that big, is there?

No complaints about the keywords.

No complaints about co-creator functionality.

The new photo display... It seems good in theory, but in practice it's a bit laggy and clunky. The 3d view is... well... It's the 3d view, none of its issues have vanished. Embedding a video is about the only thing that works well.

I can't find how to organize models into shop sections, am I just missing it?

On the bright side... Many kudos for the material selection! In the immortal words of an internet meme: Me gusta! Easy material selection, quick pricing... Oh my gosh, you can set the final price and markup is automatically calculated! AAAAAAA I love it! Whatever you do, KEEP THAT. KEEP THAT JUST THE WAY IT IS. IF YOU REMOVE THAT I WILL HAVE TO SPEND ALL MY MARKUP EARNINGS ON A PLANE TICKET SO I CAN COME OVER THERE AND SMACK YOU WITH A 3D PRINTED BASEBALL BAT.

So, my opinions, in summary: I would prefer having everything in one place, with no intermediate steps in order to access edit functionality. A few things are confusing, clunky, or seemingly missing. The material selection is a keeper!

Apologies for being long-winded. Rolling Eyes


When in doubt... Duct tape!
Re: new model page [message #34331 is a reply to message #34326 ] Fri, 16 September 2011 07:20 UTC Go to previous messageGo to next message
avatar virtox  is currently offline virtox
Messages: 1171
Registered: August 2008
Go to my shop
Shapie Expert
moderator
My points before breakfast:

Editing image title and caption:
- Cursor always snaps to start of string, I would prefer to have cursor at point where I clicked.
- Caption is limited to very short text
- Changes revert as soon as another is selected unless pressing enter first

In general:
- imho a bit of overkill on the eye candy and the layout is even more claustophobic than before Wink

- Description area is cluttered with my avatar, shop logo, tweet and facebook stuff . And worse, the description is truncated with a "more button".

- Editing the description seems to only show part of previously entered description?

- Allow downloads checkbox seems to be out of place where it is now.

- Can't see how many people favorited a model.

- I am on different monitor DPI settings now: comments are unproportionally large, slide show images are cropped ugly. Will check again on normal settings later.

- material/markup :
- order of materials seems illogical
- area is too small: I prefer to see all at once, no scrolling (better overview at first glance).
- reduce material icons, limit material name to single line
- sales tax/VAT not included stub could be single line.

Time for breakfast, will continue later Smile

edit: added some more Wink

[Updated on: Fri, 16 September 2011 07:53 UTC]


- Artist / Engineer / Designer / Shopowner / Volunteer / Moderator -
Re: new model page [message #34334 is a reply to message #34331 ] Fri, 16 September 2011 07:49 UTC Go to previous messageGo to next message
avatar stop4stuff  is currently offline stop4stuff
Messages: 3168
Registered: June 2010
Go to my shop
Shapie Expert
Virtox, the 'favourite this model' link appears on the top right of other people's model pages.

Re: new model page [message #34335 is a reply to message #34326 ] Fri, 16 September 2011 07:54 UTC Go to previous messageGo to next message
avatar virtox  is currently offline virtox
Messages: 1171
Registered: August 2008
Go to my shop
Shapie Expert
moderator
Thanks, just noticed it Smile


- Artist / Engineer / Designer / Shopowner / Volunteer / Moderator -
Re: new model page [message #34336 is a reply to message #34335 ] Fri, 16 September 2011 08:45 UTC Go to previous messageGo to next message
avatar stop4stuff  is currently offline stop4stuff
Messages: 3168
Registered: June 2010
Go to my shop
Shapie Expert
Regarding updates to model pricing;
For Virtox using Firefox it works.
For me using IE.8.0 it doesn't work.

I just took a look at the source code and think I may have found out why, but my memory of my coding days is fuzzy so maybe wrong. iirc, IE needs scripted functions need to be parsed before the code where the functions are called from?

Re: new model page [message #34337 is a reply to message #34336 ] Fri, 16 September 2011 08:52 UTC Go to previous messageGo to next message
avatar equilux  is currently offline equilux
Messages: 14
Registered: November 2010
Go to my shop
Junior Member
Hello!

Where has the 'Back to my designs' link gone?

Can I really see how much other people's 'not for sale' models would cost to buy?

That's all.
Re: new model page [message #34338 is a reply to message #34337 ] Fri, 16 September 2011 08:59 UTC Go to previous messageGo to next message
avatar stop4stuff  is currently offline stop4stuff
Messages: 3168
Registered: June 2010
Go to my shop
Shapie Expert
equilux wrote on Fri, 16 September 2011 08:52

Hello!

Where has the 'Back to my designs' link gone?

Can I really see how much other people's 'not for sale' models would cost to buy?

That's all.


Shocked
Re: new model page [message #34339 is a reply to message #34337 ] Fri, 16 September 2011 08:59 UTC Go to previous messageGo to next message
avatar virtox  is currently offline virtox
Messages: 1171
Registered: August 2008
Go to my shop
Shapie Expert
moderator
equilux wrote on Fri, 16 September 2011 08:52

Hello!
Can I really see how much other people's 'not for sale' models would cost to buy?


I have not seen this, do you have an example?


- Artist / Engineer / Designer / Shopowner / Volunteer / Moderator -
Re: new model page [message #34340 is a reply to message #34339 ] Fri, 16 September 2011 09:00 UTC Go to previous messageGo to next message
avatar stop4stuff  is currently offline stop4stuff
Messages: 3168
Registered: June 2010
Go to my shop
Shapie Expert
here you go virtox - http://www.shapeways.com/model/334809/test_d.html?gid=mg

Re: new model page [message #34344 is a reply to message #34326 ] Fri, 16 September 2011 10:28 UTC Go to previous messageGo to next message
avatar TomZ  is currently offline TomZ
Messages: 179
Registered: August 2008
Go to my shop
Senior Member
Here's my feedback about this new changes. There are somethings I like but also quite a few things I strongly despise.

Why are my photos cropped in a ridiculous way? Half of the product is cropped off and this does not look nice at all. All my photos are nice and square and the products have a uniform white border around them so they look nice as thumbnails on the shop page and also used to look nice on the product page.
I would also much prefer a layout like the old one where the user can see all/some thumbnails at once and click to enlarge.
The full screen feature is ridiculous, my photos do not have a large enough resolution for that and look awful. The lightbox which adapts itself to the photo size is a much better solution.

Why is my description shortened and is the user forced to click to read it? My descriptions contain important information about the product and I want users to see it at first glance.

You seem to have overdone the sliding effect things. I would just like my model pages to be nice and clean with everything available at first glance. The model description as well as the photos. The product video and 3D view (less important to me) are also well hidden.

The shop logo is nice, but it takes away a lot of space that could be used for the description. Why not have it in the right panel where it could be displayed much more prominently while preserving screen estate? Currently the right panel is much shorter than the rest of the page which is a waste.

My products are only available in 3 materials. I think it would be nicer if they were all displayed at once but I can see that for models available in more materials this would take too much space.

I do not have a profile picture uploaded so it just displays the silhouette and that is fine. However, for other people I have seen that their picture is shrunken down so much it just looks silly.

The workflow for adding keywords is also not very good. It requires a lot of work and doesn't even save my keywords all the time. A single textbox where you can just enter keywords separated by spaces or coma's would be so much better.

Finally, this does not specifically have to do with the new layout, but since the model dimensions are now more prominently displayed I thought I'd mention it: my models are meant to be assembled and the bounding box dimensions you give do not represent the final size after assembling. I would like to be able to alter the dimensions myself to accurately represent the product. I have gotten many questions about this, ranging from surprise to accusations of me incorrectly representing the product.
Re: new model page [message #34345 is a reply to message #34344 ] Fri, 16 September 2011 11:33 UTC Go to previous messageGo to next message
avatar BillBedford  is currently offline BillBedford
Messages: 346
Registered: November 2008
Go to my shop
Senior Member
TomZ wrote on Fri, 16 September 2011 10:28


Why are my photos cropped in a ridiculous way? Half of the product is cropped off and this does not look nice at all. All my photos are nice and square and the products have a uniform white border around them so they look nice as thumbnails on the shop page and also used to look nice on the product page.

Because they are samples? you get the uncropped photos in the popout image veiwer (second right icon)

[Updated on: Fri, 16 September 2011 11:34 UTC]


Bill Bedford
Re: new model page [message #34347 is a reply to message #34345 ] Fri, 16 September 2011 11:40 UTC Go to previous messageGo to next message
avatar TomZ  is currently offline TomZ
Messages: 179
Registered: August 2008
Go to my shop
Senior Member
Sure, but I'm not really happy about the way they are sampled. I want my customer to know instantly what they are getting without having to enlarge the image.
I took and edited all my pictures carefully and was quite happy about how they looked on the old site. I don't see why it's a good idea to remove the top and bottom 75px from each image.
On the old site, the user would be instantly presented with the main image the way I uploaded it and would get thumbnails of the other images. Now, they have to click to see the full image and have to click more to see what the other images are like.

Admittedly the guideline was and is to make your images 500x700 px or something and I did not do that (rather making them square). However, if I don't stick to that guideline I don't think Shapeways should punish me for that by cropping away my image. I would much rather have them scale it down to make it fit in the 500x700 frame.
Re: new model page [message #34348 is a reply to message #34347 ] Fri, 16 September 2011 11:48 UTC Go to previous messageGo to next message
avatar virtox  is currently offline virtox
Messages: 1171
Registered: August 2008
Go to my shop
Shapie Expert
moderator
Even image which meet the old guidelines seem to be affected..

I vote for downscaling to fit too.


- Artist / Engineer / Designer / Shopowner / Volunteer / Moderator -
Re: new model page [message #34353 is a reply to message #34348 ] Fri, 16 September 2011 13:25 UTC Go to previous messageGo to next message
avatar stonysmith  is currently offline stonysmith
Messages: 2108
Registered: August 2008
Go to my shop
Shapie Expert
moderator
Will the preview images eventually be re-generated to look better on the full screen preview?

Someday.. can we get a better material icon for FUD/FD than the circular comb? To the un-initiated, it looks a bit like a mowhawk.

I would almost go for removing the material icon from the price list.. (above the Add to Cart button) it takes up quite a bit of space.

[Updated on: Fri, 16 September 2011 13:51 UTC]


Patience, Persistance, Politeness - the 3Ps will help us get us to Perfect Printed Products
Re: new model page [message #34354 is a reply to message #34326 ] Fri, 16 September 2011 14:13 UTC Go to previous messageGo to next message
avatar aegidian  is currently offline aegidian
Messages: 109
Registered: August 2009
Go to my shop
Senior Member
Could we please have an option to edit prices with a selected country's sales tax INCLUDED.

I like to set my prices to hit a certain point for my customers in the UK, I'll have to get out the calculator and do it all by hand now, which is tedious.
Re: new model page [message #34355 is a reply to message #34326 ] Fri, 16 September 2011 14:16 UTC Go to previous messageGo to next message
avatar aegidian  is currently offline aegidian
Messages: 109
Registered: August 2009
Go to my shop
Senior Member
BUG

My models have longer multiline descriptions that my customers can now no longer see without hitting a tiny 'More' button.

But what is truly appalling is that I can no longer edit the longer description, only the first line!!!!


http://www.shapeways.com/model/284143/


This is awful.

[Updated on: Fri, 16 September 2011 14:17 UTC]

Re: new model page [message #34358 is a reply to message #34326 ] Fri, 16 September 2011 14:21 UTC Go to previous messageGo to next message
avatar lensman  is currently offline lensman
Messages: 1643
Registered: December 2009
Go to my shop
Shapie Expert
Well, no-one's mentioned this yet...

Editing model description text is not kept when reverting back to "edit off" page. And, yes, I'm clicking OK and Update Page. Nothing. Tried this numerous times.

Also, what's with the HTML tags in the description field when editing text?

I'm using IE8 running under Windows XP Pro.

Glenn


Glenn ------ My Website Third Dimension Jewellery
Re: new model page [message #34360 is a reply to message #34355 ] Fri, 16 September 2011 14:24 UTC Go to previous messageGo to next message
avatar aegidian  is currently offline aegidian
Messages: 109
Registered: August 2009
Go to my shop
Senior Member
CLUNKY

Why does the page need the 'Change' link under the 'This model is public and available for sale.' line as well as the gimmicky slider switch link?

One simple 'EDIT' button or link would be enough.

[Updated on: Fri, 16 September 2011 14:25 UTC]

Re: new model page [message #34361 is a reply to message #34326 ] Fri, 16 September 2011 14:29 UTC Go to previous messageGo to next message
avatar D_man  is currently offline D_man
Messages: 37
Registered: July 2009
Go to my shop
Member
Hi,

I can't figure out how to remove a model on that new model page !!
Re: new model page [message #34363 is a reply to message #34360 ] Fri, 16 September 2011 14:32 UTC Go to previous messageGo to next message
avatar aegidian  is currently offline aegidian
Messages: 109
Registered: August 2009
Go to my shop
Senior Member
@Josh Levine

You have chosen to release this page design without testing it with us designers first.

You have chosen to release this page design on a Friday, again, when most of Shapeways support will be unable to respond to criticism of the design that comes in over the weekend.

In my opinion, those are two very poor decisions.

Did you not chose to read the criticisms made when you inflicted the previous iteration of this design on us all?
Re: new model page [message #34365 is a reply to message #34326 ] Fri, 16 September 2011 14:39 UTC Go to previous messageGo to next message
avatar virtox  is currently offline virtox
Messages: 1171
Registered: August 2008
Go to my shop
Shapie Expert
moderator
@lensman: what browser/os combo are you using?

I cannot reproduce it, as soon as I hit "OK" it saves the info, switching to off or navigating away has no influence for me (firefox/win7)

The previous edit box was actually a rich text edit box.
The new one only shows the source.



- Artist / Engineer / Designer / Shopowner / Volunteer / Moderator -
Re: new model page [message #34371 is a reply to message #34363 ] Fri, 16 September 2011 15:06 UTC Go to previous messageGo to next message
avatar mctrivia  is currently offline mctrivia
Messages: 808
Registered: September 2010
Go to my shop
Senior Member
aegidian wrote on Fri, 16 September 2011 14:32

@Josh Levine

You have chosen to release this page design without testing it with us designers first.

You have chosen to release this page design on a Friday, again, when most of Shapeways support will be unable to respond to criticism of the design that comes in over the weekend.

In my opinion, those are two very poor decisions.

Did you not chose to read the criticisms made when you inflicted the previous iteration of this design on us all?



Yep shapeways has a history of releasing things full of bugs. They also have a history of making changes that look nice but don't work.

The good news is it looks like they are finally figuring out to limit ajax usage to when needed.

Shapeways set up beta.shapeways.com and put proposed new formats up there until you get the bugs fixed then switch over to the main site. Never ever put up untested code on the main page. This is code practice rule 1 and those breaking this rule really should be fired.

Also get use to using
<? echo SUBDOMAIN; ?>shapeways.com


define SUBDOMAIN in a seperate file that never changes(don't forget to add the period on the end. This way if you need the domain it will always show correct. Use the power of PHP to prevent mistakes.

[Updated on: Fri, 16 September 2011 15:10 UTC]


Follow me on twitter http://twitter.com/mctrivia or my blog at http://4ddice.blogspot.com/
Re: new model page [message #34372 is a reply to message #34326 ] Fri, 16 September 2011 16:11 UTC Go to previous messageGo to next message
avatar fx  is currently offline fx
Messages: 110
Registered: July 2008
Go to my shop
Senior Member
Please don't copy Facebook. The descriptions aren't boring OMG comments, they are an important part of the product page.

Full text MUST be shown by default without any other user action.
Re: new model page [message #34373 is a reply to message #34326 ] Fri, 16 September 2011 16:15 UTC Go to previous messageGo to next message
avatar stopee  is currently offline stopee
Messages: 5
Registered: September 2011
Go to my shop
Junior Member
stop4stuff... some of the issues you convey are fixed if you open a second account - serverside data got messed up Twisted Evil Rolling Eyes Confused

AAAAARRRRRGGGGGG!!!! (says stop4stuff) Wink


Re: new model page [message #34375 is a reply to message #34326 ] Fri, 16 September 2011 17:05 UTC Go to previous messageGo to next message
avatar stannum  is currently offline stannum
Messages: 1057
Registered: May 2009
Go to my shop
Shapie Expert
This sounds like repeating the above points, but some general notes anyway: New interface seems to require a lot of clicking, just to check (= read) things, click, to change them, click and some more clicks, maybe to scroll (materials list), maybe to open or activate (currency selector)... and other parts are "guess what you can edit" or what you can write (no drop down clue in country selector, type a single letter, nothing happens). Well, probably the web trend, when it started links were underlined, selectors were fixed to OS type, etc, as years passed, the obsession with "clean" or cutting down texts got rid of the visual clues or option to say things... but in the end noise is going up, both in visual and in interaction sense. Maybe so much clicking is fine in a phone or make people feel more involved, others use full control in big screens, and just want things done fast.

One example, just count how many frame inside frame in the edit item page: side grey, then white, then thick blue line that connects to the shapeways header, white again, blue box, white box with rounded corners, followed by a blue box with inner shadow that has a white zone that you can scroll up and down to check the images. View mode has some less, but has to crop the images so a dark (?) control bar fits.

mctrivia: SW is beta, check the header pink dot. They should open alpha. ^_^
Re: new model page [message #34376 is a reply to message #34375 ] Fri, 16 September 2011 17:19 UTC Go to previous messageGo to next message
avatar TreadshotA1  is currently offline TreadshotA1
Messages: 122
Registered: August 2009
Go to my shop
Senior Member
Have to reply, I hate the new model page for all the reasons everyone else has already said.

To peat the ones I hate the most:

1) Edit Page is still NOT set as the default. That's a huge pain.
2) the new Upload page requires a drop down menu to choose scale. Go back to the Radio Buttons please, they are so much better. One less click, and they just look better.
3) where is the button to models to Shop Categories?
4) the select material box looks ugly. It's a huge banner, like someone said "our webpage lacks something, let's just put a sticky note on it", and looks like a speech bubble from a bad comic strip.
5) the whole pages loads and runs slower. Much slower. Too many graphics, probably. I'm running i5 with 8GB ram, and it's still slow.

I'm sorry SW, but I hate this new page. Ive come across the tests (which usually lasted about a day or two) before, and I always hated them. I hate it even more now. A lot more. Mainly because this could end up being the norm. Sorry, just my 2 cents.

EDIT: I'm running Firefox on Windows 7, and also Safari on the iPad. Slow to load on both, looks ugly on both.

[Updated on: Fri, 16 September 2011 17:21 UTC]

Re: new model page [message #34380 is a reply to message #34326 ] Fri, 16 September 2011 18:07 UTC Go to previous messageGo to next message
avatar dizingof  is currently offline dizingof
Messages: 1288
Registered: October 2009
Go to my shop
Shapie Expert

Deleting a model is gone

Deleting the whole shop doesn't work.





http://www.3Dizingof.com
Re: new model page [message #34381 is a reply to message #34376 ] Fri, 16 September 2011 18:19 UTC Go to previous messageGo to next message
avatar stannum  is currently offline stannum
Messages: 1057
Registered: May 2009
Go to my shop
Shapie Expert
Shop Catergories? Do you mean the two selectors under Keywords? That one seems to be of the few that is direct and non themed, click drop down and pick an entry, you are allowed 2, so 2 selectors.
Re: new model page [message #34383 is a reply to message #34380 ] Fri, 16 September 2011 19:01 UTC Go to previous messageGo to next message
avatar Magic  is currently offline Magic
Messages: 1192
Registered: August 2008
Go to my shop
Shapie Expert
Shapeways Crew
dizingof wrote on Fri, 16 September 2011 18:07


Deleting a model is gone


Yep, no more way to delete a model... Sad
dizingof wrote on Fri, 16 September 2011 18:07


Deleting the whole shop doesn't work.


You tried that??? Did you bet it would not work or did you really intend to delete your shop? Shocked

Am I the only one to have the "My Shop Material" list going out of its window (Windows7 / IE9)


So many things to design, so little time...
Re: new model page [message #34384 is a reply to message #34383 ] Fri, 16 September 2011 19:08 UTC Go to previous messageGo to next message
avatar mctrivia  is currently offline mctrivia
Messages: 808
Registered: September 2010
Go to my shop
Senior Member
All the time. Have to turn my screen to landscape to use. Sucks.


Follow me on twitter http://twitter.com/mctrivia or my blog at http://4ddice.blogspot.com/
Re: new model page [message #34385 is a reply to message #34383 ] Fri, 16 September 2011 19:36 UTC Go to previous messageGo to next message
avatar dizingof  is currently offline dizingof
Messages: 1288
Registered: October 2009
Go to my shop
Shapie Expert
Magic wrote on Fri, 16 September 2011 19:01

dizingof wrote on Fri, 16 September 2011 18:07


Deleting a model is gone


Yep, no more way to delete a model... Sad
dizingof wrote on Fri, 16 September 2011 18:07


Deleting the whole shop doesn't work.


You tried that??? Did you bet it would not work or did you really intend to delete your shop? Shocked




I dont bet - only the URL of the shop was deleted - all designs remain. not erased.





http://www.3Dizingof.com
Re: new model page [message #34386 is a reply to message #34326 ] Fri, 16 September 2011 19:53 UTC Go to previous messageGo to next message
avatar pfeiffer stylez  is currently offline pfeiffer stylez
Messages: 296
Registered: August 2011
Go to my shop
Senior Member
stop4stuff wrote on Fri, 16 September 2011 06:35

(...)

4) No interactive 3D view of model (or at least not an easy way to find the link - because I didn't)

(...)

Do you see the little cube icon above your shop logo ?

index.php?t=getfile&id=11010&private=0

Really good hidden, because the buttons are in the line of the model title... -.-"



Dislikes:

The right column is waaaay to wide.

Informations about the designer + avatar + shop logo in the left column. I think you should leave them in the right column.

Two profile pics ? (avatar & shop logo)
Does anyone use two different images for that ?

The structure of the columns...
The buttons to change between photo view and 3d view are within the line for the headline, the shop logo falls in the description text (which means we waste a lot of space below the shop logo), a bunch of wasted space in the right column...

And something seems wrong with the pricing option.
Due to VAT, shouldn't the US price be an other than the price for a country within europe?



Actually I like changes...
But this reminds me to the "good ideas" about layout which MySpace had in october 2010...

  • Attachment: L.jpg
    (Size: 36.44KB, Downloaded 1290 time(s))

Re: new model page [message #34387 is a reply to message #34386 ] Fri, 16 September 2011 20:04 UTC Go to previous messageGo to next message
avatar stonysmith  is currently offline stonysmith
Messages: 2108
Registered: August 2008
Go to my shop
Shapie Expert
moderator
On many of my models .. the 3d icon is missing. Why isn't the 3dView icon in the toolbar with "Play, Fullscreen", etc?


Patience, Persistance, Politeness - the 3Ps will help us get us to Perfect Printed Products
Re: new model page [message #34389 is a reply to message #34387 ] Fri, 16 September 2011 20:39 UTC Go to previous messageGo to next message
avatar stop4stuff  is currently offline stop4stuff
Messages: 3168
Registered: June 2010
Go to my shop
Shapie Expert
I'm replying to the last post, coz I've had enough today!

Most of my issues were related to serverside corruption... these are now fixed and I shall edit my OP list in the morning.

Sorry for any typos.

Cheers,
Paul
Re: new model page [message #34390 is a reply to message #34389 ] Fri, 16 September 2011 20:44 UTC Go to previous messageGo to next message
avatar stop4stuff  is currently offline stop4stuff
Messages: 3168
Registered: June 2010
Go to my shop
Shapie Expert
And after all the nonsense today,

I'm replying to myself to ask SW. Why have I got an email telling me I responded to myself on a thread on the forum???

ttfn
Rolling Eyes

Re: new model page [message #34391 is a reply to message #34390 ] Fri, 16 September 2011 20:46 UTC Go to previous messageGo to next message
avatar virtox  is currently offline virtox
Messages: 1171
Registered: August 2008
Go to my shop
Shapie Expert
moderator
Because you also replied with your new account, which was probably notified when you posted with the original Wink

Have another one, sleep well Wink


- Artist / Engineer / Designer / Shopowner / Volunteer / Moderator -
Re: new model page [message #34393 is a reply to message #34391 ] Fri, 16 September 2011 20:49 UTC Go to previous messageGo to next message
avatar stop4stuff  is currently offline stop4stuff
Messages: 3168
Registered: June 2010
Go to my shop
Shapie Expert
virtox wrote on Fri, 16 September 2011 20:46

Because you also replied with your new account, which was probably notified when you posted with the original Wink

Have another one, sleep well Wink


erm... nope replied with my regular stop4stuff account (just like now)

[edit]
oh I got ya,,, damn... 2x email replies on some stuff, Doh!

[Updated on: Fri, 16 September 2011 20:52 UTC]

Re: new model page [message #34394 is a reply to message #34326 ] Fri, 16 September 2011 20:52 UTC Go to previous messageGo to next message
avatar virtox  is currently offline virtox
Messages: 1171
Registered: August 2008
Go to my shop
Shapie Expert
moderator
To all people with save/edit problems, can you check again if things work better now that the site cache was cleared?

[Updated on: Fri, 16 September 2011 20:53 UTC]


- Artist / Engineer / Designer / Shopowner / Volunteer / Moderator -
Re: new model page [message #34395 is a reply to message #34365 ] Fri, 16 September 2011 21:33 UTC Go to previous messageGo to previous message
avatar lensman  is currently offline lensman
Messages: 1643
Registered: December 2009
Go to my shop
Shapie Expert
virtox wrote on Fri, 16 September 2011 14:39

@lensman: what browser/os combo are you using?

I cannot reproduce it, as soon as I hit "OK" it saves the info, switching to off or navigating away has no influence for me (firefox/win7)

The previous edit box was actually a rich text edit box.
The new one only shows the source.




I did actually include my browser and o/s in my message. I was making the edit at work and the change wasn't showing up. When I got home the change had taken... BUT I'm still getting HTML code in the model description box when editing. THIS is what I see:

-------------
Green Lantern Ring 9.5<br><br>This is modelled with an inside diameter of 19.9mm which should shrink down to a US Size 9.5 during printing.&nbsp;<br>Note that the photographed ring is my finished, post-processed ring. You will receive a stainless steel print with no crystal; they are easily obtained over the Internet should you wish.<br>
------------

Like someone else said here it seems like this new release was put out before testing...

Glenn


Glenn ------ My Website Third Dimension Jewellery

Pages (8): [1  2  3  4  5  6  7  8    »] 
   
Previous Topic:How to add my own price
Next Topic:huh... connect to www.nyc.shapeways.net

Logo

Hello.

We're sorry to inform you that we no longer support this browser and can't confirm that everything will work as expected. For the best Shapeways experience, please use one of the following browsers:

Click anywhere outside this window to continue.