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| Re: Hand-Crank Fan [message #26888 is a reply to message #26885 ] Tue, 03 May 2011 06:34 UTC |
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Wow... Very interesting and very elegant! I notice that the gears have very pointy teeth. Is is a way to deal with the loose tolerances of WSF?
So many things to design, so little time...
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| Re: Hand-Crank Fan [message #26889 is a reply to message #26888 ] Tue, 03 May 2011 06:52 UTC |
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@Magic: Thanks! Yes, I found that because of the tolerances, I needed to put an extended, rounded tip on the teeth in order for them to mesh correctly. Otherwise, they would slip by each other. The tips on the gears help to nudge the other gears around just enough to keep everything turning very smoothly.
@vertigopolka
http://www.vertigopolka.com
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| Re: Hand-Crank Fan [message #26890 is a reply to message #26889 ] Tue, 03 May 2011 06:54 UTC |
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Looks like quite a feat of (3d printed) engineering.
When do we get a video of it in action? 
Edited: Note to self -- look closer...
[Updated on: Tue, 03 May 2011 07:07 UTC] Community Manager | Shapeways
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| Re: Hand-Crank Fan [message #26891 is a reply to message #26890 ] Tue, 03 May 2011 07:16 UTC |
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@ana: I put the link to the video in the original post (I don't know how to embed video in the forums).
Oops, just noticed your "note to self," but here's the link again :): Hand-Crank Fan video
@vertigopolka
http://www.vertigopolka.com
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| Re: Hand-Crank Fan [message #26917 is a reply to message #26885 ] Wed, 04 May 2011 00:56 UTC |
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Very cool !
What's the gap length you used between the parts ?
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| Re: Hand-Crank Fan [message #26920 is a reply to message #26917 ] Wed, 04 May 2011 05:18 UTC |
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Thanks!
Some of the gaps are pretty tight; it really took a while to free up the parts. I'm working on some slight modifications.
There is about 1mm vertical space between the gears and the brace, and I added little semi-sphere nipples on the brace to help keep the gears from wobbling too much. I also curved the sides of the holes in the brace; a .6mm straight gap around the shafts would be too loose, but I also did not want the gap to be too small, so this is how I compromised.
@vertigopolka
http://www.vertigopolka.com
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| Re: Hand-Crank Fan [message #26922 is a reply to message #26921 ] Wed, 04 May 2011 06:41 UTC |
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It took about 20 minutes to get the parts moving. I figured I was pushing the limits with some of the tolerances. I've had pieces fused before. The .4mm gap for the bumps is only at the tip/tangency, so there is a lot of space around it and didn't expect any problem there. I've tried straight cylindrical walls around axles/shafts, but they are either too loose or get fused. The rounded walls seemed to keep it from fusing, even though it's tight around the edges. I'll probably open that up, just slightly.
It's definitely difficult to try to get this all working with the WSF material.
@vertigopolka
http://www.vertigopolka.com
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| Re: Hand-Crank Fan [message #26934 is a reply to message #26922 ] Wed, 04 May 2011 14:54 UTC |
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Rounded walls definately work... I tried out some dragonscale earrings with 1mm 'wire' and 0.2mm gap between the rings - image here...the rings looked like they were fused, but a few wiggles back & forth losened them up.
Did you try the 'freezer trick' to loosen up the parts?
(WillLaPuerta - It Arrived - Toy Car and Pocket Reaper)
vertigopolka - you might have a fan in hand, but you also have a fan of your designs in me.... great stuff
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| Re: Hand-Crank Fan [message #27061 is a reply to message #26940 ] Fri, 06 May 2011 20:55 UTC |
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Thanks 
I was pondering stuff today, musing about various things I've done with LEGO, and it struck me... LEGO is ABS with smooth surfaces, for lube on moving parts, I use a spray on silicone/PTFE oil which reduces friction to around 40%... it might not work the same with raw WSF as-is but it might work with polished/ground/sealed WSF, like after a few spins to get everything losened up and working - just a thought
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