Normals and Rhino 4

Discussion in 'Design and Modeling' started by 14529_deleted, Mar 13, 2009.

  1. 14529_deleted
    14529_deleted Member
    Hello,

    I almost tried everything (14 uploads :mad: )but I still get a e-mail back that said " There was an issue with uploading your model test10 to Shapeways. Your model has inverted normals in it."

    I work whit Rhino 4 and this is the result of the command "checkmesh" everything seams OK to me...
    I tried to load the STL into MeshLab and then re-saved it in STL, I tried also Accutrans and it in DAE... but nothing help...

    Can anybody take a look at my file and help me out ?
    thanks,

    Fred,


    "result of checkmesh of Rhino4.0"

    This is a good mesh.

    General information about this mesh:
    Mesh does not have any degenerate faces.
    Mesh does not have any zero length edges.
    Mesh does not have any non manifold edges.
    Mesh does not have any naked edges.
    Mesh does not have any duplicate faces.
    Mesh does not have any faces that could make it better if their directions were flipped.
    Mesh does not have any disjoint pieces.
    Mesh does not have any unused vertices.

    ID: 2f42ce13-b066-43be-9d30-3d38f61945a3 (9828)
    Layer name: Default
    Render Material:
    source = from layer
    index = -1
    Attribute UserData:
    UserData ID: B0EE2168-8EC6-42ed-A962-26DEB8CC8F9A
    Plug-in: Rhino Render
    description: Rhino Renderable Object UserData
    saved in file: no
    copy count: 2
    Geometry:
    Valid mesh.
    Closed polygon mesh: 8 vertices, 12 polygons with normals
    bounding box: (16.3,5.775,45.5) to (42.45,40.075,46)



    This is a good mesh.

    General information about this mesh:
    Mesh does not have any degenerate faces.
    Mesh does not have any zero length edges.
    Mesh does not have any non manifold edges.
    Mesh does not have any naked edges.
    Mesh does not have any duplicate faces.
    Mesh does not have any faces that could make it better if their directions were flipped.
    Mesh does not have any disjoint pieces.
    Mesh does not have any unused vertices.

    ID: 06900d03-98e9-4662-a3bd-77d62079335a (9827)
    Layer name: Default
    Render Material:
    source = from layer
    index = -1
    Attribute UserData:
    UserData ID: B0EE2168-8EC6-42ed-A962-26DEB8CC8F9A
    Plug-in: Rhino Render
    description: Rhino Renderable Object UserData
    saved in file: no
    copy count: 2
    Geometry:
    Valid mesh.
    Closed polygon mesh: 8 vertices, 12 polygons with normals
    bounding box: (16.275,5.75,13.75) to (21.725,14.5,15)
     
  2. garenc
    garenc Member
    Hello,
    some operations u've made don't close well your forms. For rounded form, use surface by sections to join them with tangency. Don't deal with rails.
    That's what I find. I also have problem with inverted normals.
    Schuss
     
  3. ArMOO
    ArMOO Member
    Fred,

    If you upload the file, I'll have a look and will try to fix it for you.

    AO
     
  4. buho29
    buho29 Member
    me I converted my object nurbs in mesh with this configuration (to note that its depend of unity (me it is mm and of the coin of 10-50mm)


    [​IMG]

    and export in .stl I validate on freecad
     
  5. ArMOO
    ArMOO Member
    Fred,

    I don't know if you're doing the right thing.
    Just upload the file at the forum here and somebody will try to fix it for you. If you don't want the file in public, you can sent it to blueskygnome@hotmail.com and I'll have a peek.

    Greetings AO
     
  6. RalphVdB
    RalphVdB Well-Known Member CS Team
    Hi atelier-dynomant :cool:

    You can also send the stl file to service@shapeways.com and we will have a look at it :laughing:
     
  7. 14529_deleted
    14529_deleted Member
    Hi,

    I must say that the original file is from Arkey (customer), I get it per mail, as an DWG, then I open it into Rhino en to maken an STL....

    Fred.
     

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  8. RalphVdB
    RalphVdB Well-Known Member CS Team
    Hi Fred,

    i just sent you a PM explaining everything ;)

    Good luck!
     
  9. ArMOO
    ArMOO Member
    Hi Ralph,

    We talked ( Fred and me ) allready on the phone about the dwg he had received. I tried all kind of conversions ( Fred also ) to get a good stl. It was just impossible, the only solution left was to model it again or to get the file in another format ( step or iges ), and then we could try again to make a proper stl.

    Greetings AO
     
  10. 14529_deleted
    14529_deleted Member
    Hi there,

    Thanks everyone for the help en sugestion but I think it is beter to re-draw the all thing from zero.....

    thanks anyway,

    Fr :confused ed