Every now and then we get a new material to play with at Shapeways and once in a while we find one so exciting we really have to show you. Take a look at the video of the material, tell us what you think? Something you could use in your designs? what would you use it for? Should we try it out?
this is so awesome, i was requesting something like this
make this available in black
now add more colors to strong and flexible
and colors to polished strong and flexible and the possibilities will be unlimited
yes i know this sound like the comment f-primus-unicron made on the youtube video, because im f-primus unicron XD
but really, dont think about it, make this material available right now
I wonder what the cost would be? This appears that it'd be the perfect material for packing FUD items in to keep them from breakingduring transit.
Construct such a mesh as shown above equal in size to the bounding box for any FUD model plus a 1/2 centimeter in each direction. Then subtract the convex hull of the FUD model from the center of this mesh. Poof.. custom-custom packaging!
Yeesss that extremly cool i would love t make some things with it,
If the price is ok and there would be more colours this white/yellow is ugly in my opinion, the normal white strong & flexible colour for example would be ok.
Yes, definitely a useful addition. I can see where it would be useful in devices that need springs or similar mechanical actions. This would be a big help with functioning mechanisms. Please include it in your materials.
I actually just had a prototyping project that this would have been perfect for. If it had been available two months ago, it would have saved me time and money finding another place to make those parts.
Thanks for showing that material! That looks useful, but to be honest with you, I have no idea when I'll think of when I would have a design in mind to use that with. I might go to school before I think about using that for a mock up. That looks helpful for toys, but can you make Tenishoes? Ha ha. Just for fun. serious.
This looks terrific! I would love to work with this. Really puts the "flexible" into XSF. Fantastic for things like grips, liners, cases/skins (as noted above), seals...how is the behavior with temperature?
Hey!! Wow, glad to see all the enthusiasm! We are currently gathering the material specs you are looking for and more. It's a brand new material, so we are working closely with the manufacturers to get you the information, but thought a sneak peak would be well worth it. Black would be great, my first thoughts actually when I thought about this material. I will post updates on this thread as soon as I get more info!
I really hope this is medical/food safe/hypoallergenic. We really need more practical materials, as someone mentioned above, this would be great to make a watch writband.
On that note: Some other plastics should be introduced with the same criteria. We need dishwasher safe/proof materials to start making more practical prints.
Information, information, information!! Are you ready? Here we go.
Many people asked about usages. As you can see the material is quite bendy. It would make GREAT iPhone cases, in my opinion! It isn't porous, so it wouldn't be good to hold ink for stamps, but as stamps themselves the material works well for that. For shoe soles, this material would work as well. We haven't tested for mold making yet, but it should be possible--one issue is that the surface is a bit rough. Me, I've been using it as a stress toy and the flexibility holds up quite well. I also suspect my rubber duck collection will expand vastly in the future. Any other ideas for usages?
There were also some questions on how this material touch and felt like. It's not as rough as the Strong & Flexible though, and not as smooth as Strong & Flexible polished. Would love to sponsor an experiment with a community member to test this when we get this online though! It's sturdier than Tango material. When we tested the Tango on Shapeways years ago, it would break after you bend it 2 or 3 times. This material still maintains its flexibility even after an afternoon of me using it as a stress toy.
- Can be dyed? YES! Just like Strong & Flex. So.. black, red, blue... you name it! What colors would you guys be interested in working with??
- Floats? Yes it does
- Detail level? Similar to strong & flex, but slightly lower resolution
- Allergenic properties? Non discovered thus far
- Works as erasers? Not particularly well unfortunately
Also.. prepare your bibs: this material is FOOD SAFE for EU countries--not FDA approved yet.
Drooling? I am.
For even more technical stuff (in other words, going to geek out now) this material's technical name is PEBA (Polyether-block-amid). And for WJV@particles's question, the surface hardness ranges from shore D 25 (75 A) to D 72.
Whew! Keep the questions coming, guys! I'm so happy to see such an overwhelming response.
make this available in black first
and talking about colors we really need and i mean it
more color options for the strong flexible and polished materials
and not just yellow
red - orange - yellow - green - blue - purple
to begin with
I just ordered a design for a project in WSF that I have been using as the male for a mold, then casting the shape in a 90 Shore A rubber to get the performance I need out of the design. With this material it looks like I'd be able to print it directly and test....saving me about $100 and 3-4 days of work. PLEASE make this available!!!!
You say the material can be dyed: The problem I see with this is, as a food safe material, it will absorb food stains and hence discolour.
I find it odd that WSF, which can also be dyed, is classed as not watertight but is dishwasher safe... I am assuming here that neither of them will be fully washable providing they are still able to be dyed.
White detail, and frosted detail are classed as watertight but not dishwasher safe... Seems odd again... Factoring in the potential of the temperatures in the dishwasher doesn't tally, as they, and WSF, tolerate the same temperatures. To me this points to the detergent, so even if they are dishwasher safe they will not come out 'as new'...
I would appreciate it if anyone with experience in this with their prints would chime in.
We need more 'practical' materials to increase the product ranges in the prints.
Few questions though:
-You said this was not porous, does that mean that it's 100% watertight?
-It bends well, but does it stretch that well too?
-What temperatures can this material stand up to?
-What price (range) is this going to be if it's ever to be made available?
Alright, is there a possibility of using this material along with wsf in a single multimaterial print? I see some good uses of this by it self, but in combination with more rigid materials the possibilities become much more complex and functional. Many of the plastic products around us are made in more then a single type of material, so the earlier we can combine diverse materials in single prints the more blurred the line between shapeways' prints and consumer products becomes.
Objet materials (detail) can do it in theory but the file handling is so cumbersome it is not possible for us to currently offer it and the materials would be variations of acrylic, from black to white, hard to rubbery etc etc. great potential not currently realized.
i dont know, kraftwurx has a nice page design but im not sure about the company
and if shapeways adds more color options for strong and flexible, some for polished, and for transparent and add as well the new material it will be fine
yes i know, i have an obsession with more color options for strong and flexible
I would DEFINITELY use this material in my designs and models. I readily can imagine use for some bike grips and bike seats I have been prototyping. I can also see it being useful for gaskets a better two part iphone case (hard/flexible case with this new rubbery material as the gasket or such).
I wonder, is this material similar to urethane or other rubbers that can be dyed easily?
Looks like a really interesting material. The most obvious use is in toys or just ornaments. I wonder if this property can be used as a shock absorber for airbags or behind the drivers seat to protect back passengers. Knowing my limited creativity, I couldn't possibly think of much better ways to use this material. Would be nice to see better suggestions.